Looking at the three words that are translated as Hell in the New Testament - Tartarus, Hades, and Gehenna... the only word that could or should be translated as Hell is Gehenna - and this video is an exploration of this fact.
Mt.10.28: "And do not be afraid of those who are killing (apokteino) the body, but are not able to kill (apokteino) the soul; but instead have awesome respect for the one able to destroy (apollumi) both soul (psuche) and body (soma) in the burning dump (ge'enna)."
But will God Apollumi both body and soul in Gehenna??
"For the Son of man is come to SAVE that which was LOST (Apollumi)" (Matt. 18:11)!
Jesus came to save those VERY SOULS that will be Apollumi (Lost, DESTROYED) in Death!
Sure! If you want to look at it that way! I mean, Why not be humble? It's like going to a job every day and saying "OMGosh! I gotta bow down & kiss the bosses Feet today?" Rather than saying "Wow, I am grateful to have a job today & I get to recieve a paycheck!" I would say stop thinking about how Jesus is trying to "Punk You" by Bowing down and start looking at the benefits of salvation!
if i'm understanding you right, you have to be a good person who does his best isn't enough, you have to also bow down and kiss his feet and suck up to him as well or you will fail. chris, i don't want to be an arse kisser, is there another way?
I am not 'perfect' just because I believe - but I am under the grace of God - which is something essential - being a good person who tries his best still falls short of the glory of God... standing for myself - before God - without the blood of Christ - is a sure way of insuring failure.
WfC, Since you were making claims about the 'modern' doctrine of Hell and its creation, I thought Augustine would have been very important to you. Re. Dante being poplar is irrelevant, because he got his ideas from those before him-(ie, Augustine). Btw. Augustine, got his views from those before him as well.
huckster, Augustine lacked one essential quality of the Platonist re. the soul-he argued against its preexistance..I don't the relevance to my comment. Btw, I wasn't defending him.
Mt.10.28: "And do not be afraid of those who are killing (apokteino) the body, but are not able to kill (apokteino) the soul; but instead have awesome respect for the one able to destroy (apollumi) both soul (psuche) and body (soma) in the burning dump (ge'enna)."
But will God Apollumi both body and soul in Gehenna??
"For the Son of man is come to SAVE that which was LOST (Apollumi)" (Matt. 18:11)!
Jesus came to save those VERY SOULS that will be Apollumi (Lost, DESTROYED) in Death!
EmeiBaguazhang 2 years ago
Hades and tartarus are from Greek mythology, before Christianity.
Pfsif 2 years ago
Sure! If you want to look at it that way! I mean, Why not be humble? It's like going to a job every day and saying "OMGosh! I gotta bow down & kiss the bosses Feet today?" Rather than saying "Wow, I am grateful to have a job today & I get to recieve a paycheck!" I would say stop thinking about how Jesus is trying to "Punk You" by Bowing down and start looking at the benefits of salvation!
Dvader73 2 years ago
please don't make me, his feet smell so bad
there has to be another way
emuholic 2 years ago
Its only arse kissing if you really don't want to do it - it is a JOY to worship at His feet.
christoferL 2 years ago
if i'm understanding you right, you have to be a good person who does his best isn't enough, you have to also bow down and kiss his feet and suck up to him as well or you will fail. chris, i don't want to be an arse kisser, is there another way?
emuholic 2 years ago
I am not 'perfect' just because I believe - but I am under the grace of God - which is something essential - being a good person who tries his best still falls short of the glory of God... standing for myself - before God - without the blood of Christ - is a sure way of insuring failure.
christoferL 2 years ago
why do you need to believe it? what does it matter if you're not perfect, as long as you know you're not a bad person and try your best?
emuholic 2 years ago
WfC, Since you were making claims about the 'modern' doctrine of Hell and its creation, I thought Augustine would have been very important to you. Re. Dante being poplar is irrelevant, because he got his ideas from those before him-(ie, Augustine). Btw. Augustine, got his views from those before him as well.
freezingstill 2 years ago
huckster, Augustine lacked one essential quality of the Platonist re. the soul-he argued against its preexistance..I don't the relevance to my comment. Btw, I wasn't defending him.
freezingstill 2 years ago