Ezekiel Tyres Out - Ozmoroid Bloviates

Ezekiel 26 contains a prophecy concerning the city of Tyre that many Christians claim has been fulfilled and provides evidence of the accuracy of the Bible. Even a cursory examination of this claim leads one to marvel at the mental gymnastics involved in this process.

Check out an excellent video on the same subject by joshTheGoods

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck2HtCkfqXk

An example of the typical Tyre apologetics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8_jV6R0_5A

Notice how at 0:55 in this video they blatantly lie and say that the prophesy spoke of the "mainland city" when in fact no such claim was made. In fact as I point out Ezekiel clearly was speaking about an island.

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[MCWAY1]

I almost forgot. Where in the prophecy does it state that Ezekiel would live to see all of it fulfilled? Plus, history (biblical and secular) describe Tyre as both a mainland and an island.

"Founded at the start of the third millennium B.C., Tyre originally consisted of a mainland settlement and a modest island city that lay a short distance off shore. But it was not until the first millennium B.C. that the city experienced its golden age."

[ozmoroid]

@MCWAY1 I mentioned the Biblical passages that refer to Tyre as an island. I don't believe I said anything about Ezekiel having to live to see anything. My point is the following question: "built no more" "never be found again" ... are those true or false statements?

[MCWAY1]

"It (Tyre) is a Babel of broken walls, pillars, vaults, etc., there being not so much as one entire house left! Its present inhabitants are only a few poor wretches, harbouring themselves in the vaults, and subsisting chiefly on fishing; who seem to be preserved in this place by Divine Providence as a visible argument how God has fulfilled his word concerning Tyre, that it should be the top of a rock, a place for fishers to dry their nets on." - Henry Maundrell, 1697

[ozmoroid]

@MCWAY1 "built no more" "never be found again" ... are those true or false statements?

[ozmoroid]

@MCWAY1 You did not answer my question, so I'll ask again. "built no more" "never be found again" ... are those true or false statements?

[MCWAY1]

The old "many nations" referring just to Nebuchadnezzar's forces doesn't fly. It's a strange condition placed on the text by Bible skeptics. First, the text states that "many nations" would sack Tyre, BEFORE BABYLON or Nebuchadnezzar is even mentioned specifically by name.

[MCWAY1]

Add to that the tens of thousands of Phoenicians that were either massacred or sold into slavery, totally over 40,000 (according to ancient historians).

[MCWAY1]

@ozmoroid True. I don't see the Phoeniecian's capitol anymore. They lost it after Alexander the Great nearly burned it to the ground and they never got it back. And that's the island portion of Tyre. The mainland portion (Palae-Tyrus or "Old Tyre)" is what Alex used to get to the mainland. He literally threw Tyre's stones, timbers, and dust into the sea.

I've cited two historians who have seen the site and come to the same conclusion. And there are others that have done the same.

[MCWAY1]

What was one mainland Tyre NOW is now used to spread nets.

"Alexander the Great reduced Tyre to ruins in 332 BC. Tyre recovered in a measure from this blow, but never regained the place she had previously held in the world. The larger part of the site of the once great city is now as bare as the top of a rock -- a place where the fishermen that still frequent the spot spread their nets to dry." - Phillip Myers, 'General Histories for Colleges and High Schools'