How To Boil A Frog presents George Monbiot

Journalist and author George Monbiot discusses whether it will take a catastrophe to make us take action on global warming.

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News & Politics

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• frog
• global
• warming
• catastrophe
• george
• monbiot
• hurricane
• katrina

[david222444]

We are not capable of changing the climate , the Sun does that. The climate changes us not the other way round. What if the Planet cools abruptly ? Where will his concience be then ? What will he tell his grandchildren?

[howtoboilafrog]

@david222444 If something happens that 98+% of the world's peer-reviewed climatologists agree is completely impossible - like the Laws of Thermodynamics being repealed so that skyrocketing CO2 levels somehow don't warm the planet - that George will be greatly relieved, and spend his time cavorting with his grandchildren in fields of fairies and Easter Bunnies!

[theillusivemind]

Great speaker, I highly recommend his book, 'Heat'. Thanks for posting this.

[attorp]

There is absolutely nothing illogical about Monbiot's comments. He uses the Katrina example to show how humans respond to disasters after they have happened rather than take steps to prevent the disaster in the first place. And yes, the vast majority of the world scientific community agrees that global warming is happening and that humans are responsible.

[david222444]

@howtoboilafrog The pals reviewed papers mean nothing if the data is false. Since when did the laws of thermodynamics agree with greenhouse theory ? The laws of thermodynamics state the opposite. Carbon dioxide is a harmless natural gas essential to the production if oxygen. The Sun is the major driver in climate change and it is now entering a Grand Minimum . The Pacific Ocean is cooling. Nature will do what she likes with the climate. All you need is the humility to accept that fact.

[minilemur]

What gets me sheeptea is that eco-sheep like you pretend you and monbiot have scientific backing for your absurd alarmism, when in fact the science that you pretend to quote actually says more or less the opposite of what you claim.

Thus you rely on the IPCC without noticing that the IPCC claims no particularly large rise in sea levels will happen.

It also says there will be more precipitation in some areas and more drought in others. So what? When has this not been the case on this planet.

[minilemur]

Many scientific studies have shown that there is no evidence of increasing hurricane intensity or frequency with increasing global warming. End of case. So THERE IS NO LINK and Monbiot is a dangerous liar.

Runaway climate change is not claimed by the IPCC - I know exactly who they are - the interGOVERNMENTAL Panel on Climate Change - i.e. not a scientific body, but a body packed with bureaucrats and politicians.

Studies have shown no link between global warming and increasing malaria.

[sheeptea]

Hurricanes are powered by the heat of the oceans (this is why they happen just after the summer when the water's warmest). Global warming will exacerbate hurricanes. So there's the hurrican link. The link with Katrina can only be tentative however, and George gets that across here.

Runaway climate change will kills billions. Droughts floods, loss of land to the sea, increase range of malarial breeding grounds. Check out the IPCC reports. I assume a scholar like yourself will know who they are

[minilemur]

sheeptea - you reveal your ridiculous naivete in posting a quote without reference to where it comes from.

Even if the claim in the quote were true (which it doesn't even claim to be by the way - it just says "likely" - something that reasl scientists don't say without recourse to actual numerical quantities rather than vague waffle) it doesn't begin to prove that that increase is man-made. Correlation is not causation.

In fact of course that claim by Hansen-fanatics has been debunked.

[sheeptea]

Instead of laiughing or crying you should probably go get a grown-up to explain my point and then hit you for not getting it.

By the way, you're wrong. "The rate and magnitude of global or hemispheric surface 20th century warming is likely to have been the largest of the millennium, with the 1990s and 1998 likely to have been the warmest decade and year"

But hey, that's just according to the largest ever body of climatologists. Your gut feeling is just as credible.

[minilemur]

sheeptea - you really are sheepish - clearly you don't understand the first thing about citation.

You can hear Monbiot lying about science several times in this little clip alone.

Absurdly he claims that hundreds of millions will die as a result of "runaway climate change". Total bollocks. No reputable scientists would agree with him.

Note too, the dishonest way he concedes no provable link with hurrican Katrina, and then proceeds to make the link anyway!!!!!!

What childish crap.

[sheeptea]

OK, what you do is point out to me where monbiot has lied about science, and then your accusation won't be baseless. This is called a citation, and it's what you need to be taken seriously when talking about scientific findings.