1/2 Myth of Imputed Righteousness of Christ - Jesse Morrell

Jesse Morrell explains the biblical doctrine of imputed righteousness in contrasted with the Calvinist doctrine of the imputed righteousness of Christ.

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[ShownMercy]

Good grief Jesse. Have you no knowledge of what you say? Jesus said, "unless your righteousness shall exceed"... Do you have a clue of what this means? Do you know what it took to be a pharisee? For one, your FATHER had to be a pharisee. You had to be raised up in the synagogue and spoon fed the law on a daily basis. You were raised the in the strictest of manners with the toughest of guidelines. The pharisees were NEVER dope dealers, gangsters or hoodrats like you Jesse.

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[bibletheology]

@ShownMercy Jesus said that they appeared righteous outwardly but inwardly they were full of iniquity. Jesus said that our righteousness must exceed their righteousness in that they have the law of Moses that said do not commit adultery or murder, yet we have the law of Jesus which says looking with lust is adultery and hatred is murder.

[KeithTruth]

Why were the pharisees only able to appear righteous even with their instruction from a young age Jesse? And what is the connection between their inability to be inwardly righteous despite life long instruction, with us needing to be more righteous then they who are from a young age prepped for this? Could it be that upon faith we recieve Christ's righteous standing and then those God saves get purified into new creations as a process?

[bibletheology]

@KeithTruth The fact that Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for being inwardly sinful, and for being hypocrites, shows that it was their own fault. If their inward wickedness or hypocrisy was not their own free and voluntary choice, or if it was inevitable and unavoidable, then they could not be blamed, rebuked, or punished for it. The Pharisees were free moral agents who choose to be sinners, while trying to appear righteous.

[bibletheology]

@KeithTruth They could have come to Jesus and they could have had real obedient faith if they wanted to. The problem was that they didn't want to, not that they couldn't. It was a moral problem, not a constitutional one.

[cainchristian]

This video is deception. The Corinthians, who were carnal, among whom was gross sin, are called by the Apostle Paul, "sanctified in Christ Jesus". Our state is connected with fallen, incorrigible flesh, and to consider that the holiness which makes us fit for the very presence of God is attainable while in that flesh is to demonstrate that one has not realized either his own condition, or God's holiness. "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.".

[bibletheology]

@cainchristian Jesus had the same flesh that we have and he was sinless. Before Jesus had a glorified body, He was sanctified. We too can be free from sin while in our flesh. We can use our flesh as an instrument for righteousness as Paul said. We can sanctify our flesh. We cannot have physical perfection (glorification) but we can have moral perfection (sanctification). But to say that we cannot be free form sin until we lose our body is Gnosticism.

[Mkvine]

I think reformed theology misses an obvious fact in regards to Romans 4:3, 22. I says that Abraham's FAITH was counted to him as righteous. It does not say that the alien righteousness of Christ was counted to Abraham. Faith is something personal. This is the simple plain reading of the text that, unfortunately, reformed apologist tend to overlook.

[PTSaputo]

Yet, Romans 4 pronounces Abraham righteous because he believed God. 4:8 provides states "Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." This quote from Psalm 32 promises forgiveness to those who repent in sincerity. I am not looking for an excuse to sin, but I do see in the N.T. continual reminders to put off certain attitudes and put on other attitudes, in essence acknowledging that the church has continued to walk in sins, some quite serious.

So, what is it?

[stevehayes13]

Thus do I not condemn you. Go and sin no more.

[cainchristian]

It is a smoke screen to mention Gnosticism. Gnosticism has the idea of the inherent evil of matter and the essential goodness of spirit. Thus, mingled with a form of Christianity, one may develop the idea that the body is evil and must be evil treated, through Asceticism, flagellation, e.t.c. The Bible does not teach the essential evil of matter, since God caled all creation "very good", and it is not the doctrine of total depravity, since this regards the fallen state, not things principally.

[jefferwat1]

@bibletheology I don't think you understood my point. God declares us righteous and is just in doing so BECAUSE HE IMPUTES Christ's righteousness to us. There is no way around it. If you do not have Christ's righteousness, you have no righteousness at all. But you would be the one calling God a liar if you claimed that anyone could ever be justified or righteous in and of themselves. Have you not read "all have sinned..." You can't undo what you have done. Imputation by grace is the only hope.

[jefferwat1]

@bibletheology I think you just said the same thing I have been saying all along...

[hsp2thend]

@bibletheology No perfect lamb, in the Jewish economy, was ever personally guilty of the sin(s) for which he made ATONEMENT. They did, however, as a prefigure to the spotless Son of God, take, as God's appointed sacrifice, the death that the sins of the people deserved. ATONEMENT by SUBSTITUTION. That's what atonement is: The deserved wrath upon the undeserving. Christ, MY sin offering, MY PERFECT SIN OFFERING (SACRIFICE). Sin IMPUTED to the lamb. His perfection IMPUTED to the guilty.