Johnny Come Lately Pre-wrath Rapture Doctrine EXPOSED

Take heed that no man deceive you
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[Gwiz1280]

begins at the placing of the abomination of desolation and continues for exactly 1290 days, 42 months, or 3 1/2 years or in the middle of the week,1/2 week.(see also Rev 12:6, 13:5; Dan 7:25, 9:27.Saints are taken away a the end of 1,200 days which leaves 75 days of God's wrath upon the wicked

[Gwiz1280]

I will have to break this up a little it all won't fit.If you read Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

What I was taught was that the reign of the Antichrist and his persecution of God's people begins at

[murci422]

@RealWorldNewsOrg (plz see my post to Guiz)....the 7 yr trib is horrible terminology...it confuses dan's 70th wk which is 7 yrs long w/ how long the saints will suffer persecution & there is nothing in the bible that says the saints will be pressed for 7yrs in duration. Dan 11:36 says that Antichrist "will be successful until the time of his wrath is completed" but it does not tell us how long he will cause the saints to endure persecution before the rapture occurs.

[murci422]

@HelpaCollegeGradout amen

[murci422]

@RealWorldNewsOrg 7 yr. tribulation is a huge mistake of words. there is no evidence that the tribulation/persecution of the saint will be for 7 years in duration..I submit to u that u are confusing the 70th wk of Daniel which is 7 yrs long w/ how long the saints will be persecuted. Nowhere does Dan call his 70th wk "tribulation" furthermore, the tribulation will be "cut short" as per Mat 24:22..& Daniels 70th wk can NOT be cut short as per Dan 9:24 "70 (7's) are DECREED" ,it cant be shortened.

[murci422]

@Gwiz1280 Gods wrath does not begin w/ the 2nd advent it begins w/ the resurrection & the rapture..which leads to the Day of the Lord & afterward, the 2nd advent and Millinium etc.

[murci422]

@Gwiz1280 Mat 24--Mk 13--Lk 21 are all talking about the same thing & these passages are NOT talking about the 2nd Coming/Return of Christ...They are talking about the Resurrection/Rapture ..the word for "coming" in Mat 24:3 is Parousia (see meaning above) The apostles were asking specifically about the Resurrection/Rapture..The end is Wrath of God. Gods wrath begins after the Resurrection/Rapture.

[murci422]

Part 7: Finally, Mat 24 is not talking about the 2nd advent. The word "Coming" in Mat 24:3 is the Greek word "Parousia" which is the future visible return from heaven of Jesus, to RAISE THE DEAD, hold the last judgment (REWARD THE SAINTS), & set up formally and gloriously the kingdom of God which is a process that will lead up to the 2nd Advent and Millenium. Bottom Line: we don't all have to die to get to heaven, this is the mystery of 1Cor 15:51-52 and the meaning is LITERAL.

[murci422]

Part 6: I understand that we don't stay in heaven forever as many think...We reign with Christ on earth for the Millenium so there has to be a 2nd advent.....however, the word "coming" does not always apply to the second advent....this word is used interchangeably to also describe the Resurrection/Rapture event. When Jesus returns we will be with him...Every believer regardless if they died or not as per 1 Cor 15:51 "We shall not ALL sleep". How do we get THERE w/o being raptured?

[murci422]

Part 5.1 (Cont'd) Is it righteous of God to punish His own with the wicked or have you never read the parable in Mat 13 of the Wheat and the Tares? It calls to mind how Jesus gives details of his intentions in this parable in Matthew 13 where he specifically says in this verse, that He will tell the angels to (gather) the WHEAT into (MY BARN)...Last I checked...God dwells in Heaven....so I think believers will be "Flying Away" after all...ma'am w/ all due respect...you've got it twisted.