Divine Foreknowledge and Human Freedom - William Lane Craig

Christian Philosopher William Lane Craig explains how God's Divine Foreknowledge is compatible with human freedom.

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• Craig;
• Christianity;
• Predestination

[AgeOfReasonXXI]

by saying that E is uncaused, Craig just refuted his own 1st premise of the Kalam. Not everything, it turns out, that begins to exist (like the subatomic particles during radioactive decay) needs a cause. what an idiot.

[YodatheJedi12]

@AgeOfReasonXXI Subatomic particles do not spawn out of "nowhere" during radioactive decay, but rather an atomic nucleus "gives off" the particle. There are no genuine examples of something being created out of "nothing."

[kkallebb]

If God foreknows human choices, then human choices must be determined (if human choices are not determined, it is logically impossible for God to foreknow them). So, if human choices are determined, what determines them? If not God, what? Natural laws? But if God determines nature, and nature determines human choices, then doesn't God, via nature, determine human choices? 

[AgeOfReasonXXI]

@kkallebb well you don't really expect a coherent or intelligeble answer from Craig, right? :))) he's the most insincere and unprincipled apologist I've seen

[YodatheJedi12]

@AgeOfReasonXXI So.... you call Christianity's best living proponent "insincere and unprincipled?" even though he is highly regarded as a credentialed and honest scholar with 2 PhDs, even among non-christians? Please explain!

[YodatheJedi12]

@kkallebb The video explains your problem. God foreknows human choices because we freely make those choices. This is no more a contradiction than me "foreknowing" what I did last week means that *at the time* I did not have the free will to make whatever decisions I made then. Make sense?

[RomansGalatians]

Funny how Arminians argue the problem of evil like an Atheist when critisizing Calvinists.

[purpleleach1]

God could have created the universe in just a way so humans didn't do what they did.

[cupwithhandles]

Oh, thank the great goddesses I no longer deal with this insanity. It's amazing that lucid, apparently sane human beings are discussing this foolishness as thought it were important.

Calvinism vs. Arianism - the best & fastest way to get "Christians" condemning each other to hell. 

[trickjacko]

@Aphex217Twin well God Doesn't know what we don't do that's all therefore God Knows all the reality

[DerMacDuff]

Did god himselft told him how it is or what?

[TheLovesoul1]

@RomansGalatians o foolish man know thyself.

[RomansGalatians]

"The wind blows wherever it pleases." This doesn't sound like God is just a passive barometer regarding the hearts of men.

[RomansGalatians]

What a wonderful explanation of this issue. But I couldn't disagree more with Craig's conclusion.

This makes God a passive "shadow" and the will of man forges the future (humanism). Man is the CAUSE, logically prior event.

"Why do the nations rage?" The seas are tossing and turning, and God is just a barometer?

Give me a break. Puny man is utterly impotent. God CAUSES what is and what will be, and He saves whomever He pleases.

[RomansGalatians]

He says "the free decision determines the foreknowledge." Gosh, that's not the issue. The issue is: does the PREDETERMINATION precede the choice of man. If man's choice drives the predetermination, then man is forging the future, not God. God is, then, just a passive observer.

It isn't easy to accept, but that is what the Bible says.