comparitive karate san chiem ( sanchin ) San zhan

At the Terry Wingrove organsied Budosai in 2007 Master Higoanna, Master Gushi, Master Chen and Master Pan performed their respective 3 Battles forms
For more information and clips of the events, see here http://www.cyberbudo.com/budosai/2007_video.php for more clips, with demos from all participants, and White crane Tao Lun from the 2 lineages.

NB commentry states Chen Jian Feng is Master Pan's student. This is not the case. Master Chen trained at a Wu Shu Guan in Da Yuan ( about 3 Km from Master Pan ) - but the 2 schools are well known to each other.

Category:

Sports

Tags:

• White
• Crane
• Yong
• Chun
• Karate
• Goju
• Uechi
• Ryu
• Sanchin

[dantankun]

One thing that is noticeable is that the Chinese san chin or sam chien are not soft technique or forms but involve intense power. I believe the 2nd master is that of Yong-Chun-Wuzuquan Pai.

[martinpaulwatts]

@dantankun

master chen is from the Da Yu Wu zu guan which is just a few kilometers from the ong gong shr wu shu guan in yong chun.

[MrBrokenwind]

I have a question i have been reading at a certain age should you not perform san chin kata any thoughts

[martinpaulwatts]

As with all our forms I think from the age of 8 is fine - but of course at that age it is just the movements you are teaching not the other breathing and muscle stuff. Best Wishes.

[sweetfly66]

@martinpaulwatts ... I wonder if he was asking about the other side of age ... I heard that the dynamic tension inherant in Sanchin can be detrimental to older practitioners .

[martinpaulwatts]

@sweetfly66 dont think - at least the way we do it, the breathing and tension ( or blood pressure ) changes are gradual not forced, so you can tone them down and still be doing them.

[Sugarfoot108]

Great to see this comparison side by side. It would be interesting to see them apply their respective forms side by side. 

[richardhaw]

samchien is for life. you just do not stop doing it. a friend's father did it even on the morning of his death.

[sweetfly66]

@martinpaulwatts ... I notice that when I watch videos of some of the older Okinawan masters , their Sanchin`s seem " soft " ... probably a result of scaling back on the dynamic tension

[ArukiI]

For the friend asking about the possible risks to health in performing Sanchin at a late age, it is not true, another “Karate urban legend” developed from unfounded beliefs published in a biased publication that rests merits to the Naha-Te based styles of Okinawan Karate. There has never been any serious medical research about the effects of Sanchin or any other Kata. My teacher practiced Sanchin kata until he died at the tender age of 91. His name was Yagi Meitoku Dai Sensei. Cheers.

[ArukiI]

Thank you for posting such an incredible video of historic interest. I wish I was personally there to witness such a moment.

[thedaoofplus1]

@Suigetsukanno again, i didnt say there was hissing in san chin. i was comparing the technique to a hiss from a komodo dragon or a croc. show me one crane that breathes that way. the nun ng mui is responsible for southern white crane and dragon. i'm saying its dragon breathing not crane. thats all.