@thinginc When Paul speaks of the sinful flesh he speaks of the sinfulness of man, the broken connection, the compulsion of sinning that is transgressing the Commandments of God. My understanding of having a sinful nature is that due to our lack of connection with God we will sin and thus have a sinful nature. God however have promised that by His Son that we will be changed and recreated into His image, this is being born again or process of sanctification, where the connection is restored.
@Mekelsior well flesh is bought at the supper market by the pound, if you cut your finger ya that's flesh. and as for what is a SN (sinful nature) i have no idea. if we have a SN when did we get it? did God make us with it? or did God turn Adams screws when he left the garden? The reason people like the idea of a SN is because i am no longer the cause of my sin. and when you find a Christan living in sin this is ALWAYS TRUE! man is not born sinful, only born with a broken relationship toGod
@thinginc Hmm.. a bit confused as to the difference of sinful flesh and sinful nature? We are born without connection to God and are thus sinners even though we have not sinned at birth, the age of accountabillity in the Bible were 12 years old, until that point the parents were responsible for their children in a larger degree than afterwards, as far as my understanding goes anyway. If by sinful nature they mean unable to keep the commandments of God no matter what, then I disagree. =)
@Mekelsior well i still state you can not find sinful nature in the bible. only flesh. sinful nature is only in bibles fucked by Edwin H. Palmer. and he got sinful nature from Psalms_Fifty_One_Five that says:"Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive
me." KJV. The subject of this verse is NOT the state or constitution of David's nature as a sinner at,
or before, his birth but Edwin H. Palmer uses this to prove a sinful nature!!!!!!!!
@thinginc We are all born with a sinful nature, if babies are lost if they die is not up to me to decide and praise God for that. Hell is in any case a future event and not a place that exist right now, it is time to speak the truth on these matters of the immortality of the soul doctrine, purgatory, hellfire, and the commandments of God and the Sacredness of the 7th day that God made Holy. God is love, we should study Him from this setpoint, it is not love to torment people for an eternity.
@digitaljez
nah, he's a christian.
wirechair 5 months ago
I thought Ravi Zacharias was a christian?
digitaljez 7 months ago
@Mekelsior hey this answers you very well. search you tube: Was David born into a sinful nature? Bible Questions with Mi
thinginc 9 months ago
"Episode 3 - Sinful Nature?" search youtube and watch.
thinginc 9 months ago
@thinginc When Paul speaks of the sinful flesh he speaks of the sinfulness of man, the broken connection, the compulsion of sinning that is transgressing the Commandments of God. My understanding of having a sinful nature is that due to our lack of connection with God we will sin and thus have a sinful nature. God however have promised that by His Son that we will be changed and recreated into His image, this is being born again or process of sanctification, where the connection is restored.
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@Mekelsior well flesh is bought at the supper market by the pound, if you cut your finger ya that's flesh. and as for what is a SN (sinful nature) i have no idea. if we have a SN when did we get it? did God make us with it? or did God turn Adams screws when he left the garden? The reason people like the idea of a SN is because i am no longer the cause of my sin. and when you find a Christan living in sin this is ALWAYS TRUE! man is not born sinful, only born with a broken relationship toGod
thinginc 9 months ago
@thinginc Hmm.. a bit confused as to the difference of sinful flesh and sinful nature? We are born without connection to God and are thus sinners even though we have not sinned at birth, the age of accountabillity in the Bible were 12 years old, until that point the parents were responsible for their children in a larger degree than afterwards, as far as my understanding goes anyway. If by sinful nature they mean unable to keep the commandments of God no matter what, then I disagree. =)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@Mekelsior well i still state you can not find sinful nature in the bible. only flesh. sinful nature is only in bibles fucked by Edwin H. Palmer. and he got sinful nature from Psalms_Fifty_One_Five that says:"Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive
me." KJV. The subject of this verse is NOT the state or constitution of David's nature as a sinner at,
or before, his birth but Edwin H. Palmer uses this to prove a sinful nature!!!!!!!!
thinginc 9 months ago
@thinginc We are all born with a sinful nature, if babies are lost if they die is not up to me to decide and praise God for that. Hell is in any case a future event and not a place that exist right now, it is time to speak the truth on these matters of the immortality of the soul doctrine, purgatory, hellfire, and the commandments of God and the Sacredness of the 7th day that God made Holy. God is love, we should study Him from this setpoint, it is not love to torment people for an eternity.
Mekelsior 9 months ago
what a moron!!!!!!!!!
thescorpionking2020 11 months ago