VTV's Response: DEBUNKED (Fresco Threatened Him With Lawsuit)

Entire conversation here:
NOTE: * = Translated from Russian

Me: I have a question vtv for you
VTV you said on your radio show that you had proof someone was
talking in venus project's ear bad things about zeitgeist???

VTV: Yes.

Me: Can I see?

VTV: I'd rather not. I can tell you it's not Andrew Buxton.

Me: Ok thats fine

VTV: Hold on, be right back.

VTV: *There are people who want Peter out of the way. Because they wanted to be closer to Jack and Roxann. I call Roxanne at all times, and this person just called them to inform them of the
one or the other, that Peter and I have done to try to cause problems.

Navie: There are people who want to remove Peter? O_O You mean
someone who is working with J.F.?

VTV: *I would not say to remove, they want to be closer to Venus
Project. And they are actively trying to cause problems between Jack and Roxanne and Peter. They did the same with me, to try to make it so I was not friends with them anymore.

Navi: This is sad. You can write in English btw, I'll translate

til: Gossip, gossip, gossip! *clapped*

Navi: VTV, where can I know more about this?

Me: Is it anonymous?

til: His name...

VTV: It's one of the coordinators. Who I do not believe will be a coordinator any longer.

til: Douglas!

VTV: No. Not Douglas.

Me: My question now is are you still friends with the venus project or did they turn on you? are you still the spokesman?

VTV: Hold on. Dealing with family issue. sorry. Anyway. My ex wife is kind of crazy lol

Navie: does she support TZM or shes a capitalist :DDDDD

VTV: She supports an RBE, but because she is lazy.

VTV: *Jacque and Roxanne all are my friends. But they did not trust me, but as it was before. There were people who made that difficult as well. Thunder from the Z-or radio (Gregory) called them quite a bit to try and convince them to not love me anymore. He mostly failed, but I can ay is that it eventually became the reason I do not trust them. I do not think he's the one who caused the seperation. Between the PZM and TVP.

Me: So you dont trust them

VTV: *No, I trust them to normal.

Navi: Why Thunder did so?

VTV: *Some time ago my friend and thunder who i hope very much told me that thunder is beginning to not like me and say things behind my back. She began it became clear that he was insecure and jealous. I tried to help him do his radio show and more popular and promote it on his show. But nothing helped. Thunder himself a lot of personal problems. I recently had to remove it as a moderator for abuse of power. So now he and some people are trying to have me removed.

Navi: Thunder was envy to your success O_O

VTV: *Yes, it seems so. He also did not like that I was a spokesman for The Venus Project. Now they give out the application in secrecy. They do not know what I know about it. But people have shown it to me. They take people away when I was not around to defend himself and tried to get them to sign a petition to remove me as moderator. There are some trolls here who do not want there to be any power in movement. They are trying to convince everyone to get rid of moderators and facilitators. They often use intimidation and scare tactics to chat for those who oppose them. As you know, I do not advocate it. So they want me to leave.

Me: was spokesman?? are you no longer spokesman??

VTV: *Roxanne asked me not to call himself a representative, but not for that reason. I'm being the one who stole the ideas of Jacques, and he threatened to claim them.

Me: wow I cant believe it!

Navi: Just don't give up hope. IF you need any kind of support - just ask.

VTV: *Well, if you want you can write a letter and tell globalmods@thezeitgeistmovement.com mods that you do not support the petition. They told me that they still have evry confidence in their abilities and continue to send people to me to answer questions. And what I've done nothing wrong. They asked me to expose this man. So they were not angry with me. These two issues are not linked.

Me: Can we write the venus project too we could start a petition to get u back as spokesman.

VTV: No don't do that. It is best that I am not an official spokesman for now. I was not asked to announce that I am not one. Just to take the name and such off the website. Most people still believe I am. But it means that lawyers cannot try and sue them for what I said. Jacque actually told Roxanne "Sick Neil on him!" lol so I did what they said.

VTV: Was everyone who wanted to read that able to? I was typing in russian in case anyone else had questions. I am using the google translator, it seems to work better.

Navie: It is unfortunate that there is a language barrier which hardens our communication. But 90% of what you said was understandable.

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[Play671]

And here I thought you were in favor of the project venus.

[venusprojection]

@Play671 At one time I was. It took a while of learning more about it and thinking about it and then I changed my mind.

[Play671]

@venusprojection And why?

Have you lost love?

Can not wait? All in good time.

[venusprojection]

@Play671 Because I realized what a pathetically horrible and impossible idea it is. There are too many reasons to list in a youtube comment.

[fibbsabaddy]

I would love to know what you guys think is a better idea than an RBE. Surely you cant think this system is too great. You could just be hindering the most important transition this species will ever make.

[venusprojection]

@fibbsabaddy To make it brief I'm a free market constitutionalist and support the idea of competing currencies and limited government. I support the Republic and the concept small federal government basically for defense purposes only and support states rights.

[runebagel]

@venusprojection same

[venusprojection]

@MarioBrothaYT I'll try and get it up tonight. I just have to look at each screen capture I have very carefully to make sure it's completely accurate and not missing anything.

[MarioBrothaYT]

"I am going to type up and post the entire conversation in this box. Check back later."

I'll be waiting for that.

[justintempler]

@voiceofreason467 No the problem comes from Neil accusing Duane of being a plagiarist. You can't publicly accuse people of plagiarism unless you have proof you can back up in court otherwise you open yourself up to a lawsuit for defamation of character.

TZM's endorsement or non endorsement of TVP has nothing to do with it. The only reason TZM gets dragged into it is because Neil is doing it as a global moderator of TZM so they end up being responsible also.