Dr. Ingraffea Facts on Fracking

by Scott Cannon Lecture; Dr. Anthony Ingraffea, The Facts On Fracking,
March 23, 2011
by Kristian Boose
.Cornell University professor Anthony Ingraffea spoke at Luzerne County Community College in Nanticoke, Pennsylvania late in 2010.

Ingraffea speaks from the viewpoint of scientific, technological and engineering fact.

This is an excellent overview of the drilling and fracking process from a very well respected professional in the educational field.

This lecture on unconventional natural gas drilling was hosted by The Gas Drilling Awareness Coalition.

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[robertunversaw]

Who do I work for? None of your damn business. What I do for work has nothing to do with Fracking. I was just watching to get educated and you assumed because I wasn't totally agreeable I must have some kind of self interest. Good job idiot. Being Liberal is like being crazy, you just can't hide it can you?

[GADCLuzerneCounty]

You are the one who seems a little angry and crazy, just sayin.

[robertunversaw]

Lots of fluff

[GADCLuzerneCounty]

Then you do better. Walk the walk.

[GADCLuzerneCounty]

Fracking and coal are pretty neck and neck in the pollution equation. Gas is cleaner burning, but a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Add in all the other ground water contaminations and it's probably worse than coal.

[MrPetroluemEng]

No, not really. I am simply "walking the walk" as you asked Robert to do, and why would you rather personally insult someone who provides facts in which you do not agree?

Besides, as per the quite numerous statements made, there is quite a lot to pick apart in Dr. Ingraffea's "Factual" talk.

[GADCLuzerneCounty]

You appear to be obsessive compulsive and like to hear yourself talk.

Must be time to take your medication.

[MrPetroluemEng]

I do live near frac'ing locations. I've pumped fracs. It is far better than coal mining.

[MrPetroluemEng]

1:43:11 - Yes it could have been modeled. But again models are not reality, and Dr. Ingraffea's false sense of security in models is providing the audience with a false understanding of models and their abilities.

1:43:05 - Again with the lack of complete data and biasing the presentation, Dr. Ingraffea has already provided the audience with his answer. If he actually wanted people to "make the call," he would have removed all opinion from the presentation and included all the facts.

[MrPetroluemEng]

1:42:51 - Again Dr. Ingraffea is discussing probabilities, but that is only half of the equation. As a professor who teaches this, he knows that he is purposely leaving out important information. Without defining the cost of the occurrence, he is purposely biasing the presentation. What if the average clean-up cost which an offending company has to pay is $10,000 per occurrence?

[MrPetroluemEng]

1:100,000,000 or so? Another way to look at it is what is the probability of dying in a car vs. the probability a car has an oil leak? Are you proving that oil and gas development is safer than flying? Or proving that oil and gas wells have less environmental impact than a plane?

[MrPetroluemEng]

1:37:54 - Dr. Igraffea is comparing apples to oranges. Death on a plane probability to an environmental impact probability. Presuming environmental impact is a spill or venting, what is a plane's probability of spilling hydraulic fluid, leaking air, or discharging jet fuel? 1:1? 1:2? That would be an apples to apples comparison. Another apples to apples comparison would be; What is the chance of a oil or gas well killing someone nearby? con't

[MrPetroluemEng]

1:37:25 - Yes, the industry can. It is called a MIT (Mechanical Integrity Test). Want oil and gas to drill another well? I agree with re-drilling bad wells, but did not Dr. Ingraffea not rail against the surface impact of multi-well pads and the number of wells? So, logically, he is pushing for a solution here for which he was opposing at 28:50?

[MrPetroluemEng]

1:36:00 - Dr. Ingraffea does not provide a definition of significant environmental impact. The questions, thus, are irrelevant until a definition for significant environmental impact is provided.

1:36:30 -I agree. Do you think it is possible to have that next year? Best practices and control systems must be refined to achieve that. As an engineer, Dr. Ingraffea would agree that one cannot snap one's fingers and achieve this number.

[MrPetroluemEng]

1:34:18 - Please note that Dr. Ingraffea stated the research's 1:150 chance of occurrence for a serious incident, but he failed to state what the research defines as a serious impact. Bias by omission.

1:35:30 - Leadership is defined as "The action of leading a group of people or an organization." Fines are a negative reinforcement technique and erodes leadership, and thus, these views on the mission statement are poor, at best.