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This ad details Governor Lynch's "flip-flop" on his position on gay marriage. The ad also implores the viewer to call their elected officals before the final vote.

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• Governor Lynch
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• veto
• flip-flop
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• Governor Flinch

[StephanieKansas]

This to me is a non-issue. If you don't agree with marriage equality, don't marry someone of the same sex! As a school teacher, I don't ever recall reading/citing the words..."with liberty and justice for ALL" and seeing the word, "except". Separate but equal does not, has not and should not work. We can not "eenie meenie miney moe" through our neighborhoods and point to who is allowed marriage or not. As a christian and American, I am for equality, love, and acceptance for all human life:)

[WellConditioned]

...and yet the christian republicans gave adulterer and lying hypocrite David Vitter a standing ovation when he returned to his duties in Congress.

Does your second sentence apply to him as well?

[bearchewtoy75]

3. Teaching that something in life exists, doesn't mean it's being promoted. If kids are taught about different kids of religious beliefs, you wouldn't say that the school is trying to make my kid believe in something non-christian.

People are persecuted for all sorts of reasons in this country and it's mostly out of fear and misunderstanding. Maybe if we teach tolerance about those who are different than us, there would be less of that in the world. Kids have DIED because of intolerance.

[bearchewtoy75]

2. Also name a set of laws in the US that called something different for a different set of people. With making domestic partnership and civil unions the same as marriage, but with a different name, you're inferring that those relationships are less valid than others.

Schools are trying to teach it? This "teaching" about it is merely talking about the fact that there are all kinds of relationships and families in the world and some kids come have two moms or two dads.

[bearchewtoy75]

1. Preachers are free to preach it all they want. Show me an example where they weren't allowed to. Show me where they're freedom of religion was denied to them.

It's funny that before some states said that gays couple marry, civil unions were opposed by most of the people who said they are trying to "protect marriage". Then it became some kind of fall back. There are also many problems with civil union... one is that they don't always offer ALL the rights of marriage.

[slbhanna]

Well I guess you'll just have to argue then. Civil unions were designed to take care of the problems, but that's not good enough. Marriage has to be redefined and that's bogus. I don't see the benefit of continuing to argue, since it's only going to make things worse. And BTW, schools in CA are trying to teach it (that's not going over very well) and religious rights are being taken away. The Bible condemns homosexuality. If preachers are not free to preach it, what do you call it?

[bearchewtoy75]

I'll correct myself.... MOST people use religion as their basis to deny same sex marriage and the ones that don't make other claims that either aren't true or don't hold water (it will cause polygamy, schools will have to teach it, it takes away religious rights)

And last I heard, Christianity is still pretty strong in this country.

And to deny same sex couples from enjoying the same rights and benefits that straight couples do, it not right and I argue that it's unconstitutional.

[slbhanna]

Yes, marriage is a legal right for opposite sex couples and has been for quite some time. This concept is not new.

You are correct to say "many" people use religion as a basis to deny SS couples the right to marry. However, since Christianity has reportedly been on a great decline, we certainly cannot blame religion as being the only reason it's being denied.

[bearchewtoy75]

Marriage is a right that is legal for opposite sex couples, that right to same sex couples...

You're right not everyone is religious, yet many people seem to think that religion should be a basis to deny same sex couples the right to marry one another.

[slbhanna]

It is not a right until it's made legal.

I'm sure they did use religious arguments to deny interracial marriage, but keep in mind that everybody is not religious.

[bearchewtoy75]

It's a civil right that gay people are being denied because they want to marry the same sex. Civil marriage is a civil right.

They also used religious arguments to deny interracial marriage. And the majority of the public were against it.

[slbhanna]

Yes because they are referring to skin color and not sexual practice.