Jim Wallis v Tony Perkins on CBS

CBS News with Katie Couric pits Jim Wallis (Sojourners) vs. Tony Perkins (Family Research Council), explaining that not all Evangelical Christians are right-leaning Republicans.
Perkins emphasizes two issues: Abortion and Gay Marriage; Wallis points to a wider moral agenda: one that includes abortion but also adds global poverty, HIV/AIDS, Darfur, global warming.

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[PrisonerNumber9653]

@Goohuman And that remains a vile blasphemy. I am a Christian, and know the Bible very, very well, and to claim it's "Obvious I'm not a Christian" for not sharing your bigotry is an insult to the meaning of Christianity.

Faith in God and Social Justice are not REMOTELY at odds, one CANNOT follow Christ and refuse to support social justice.

It is NOT evil to protect the rights of others legally, that's not "forcing views." You think Jim Crow isn't evil, but civil rights are?

[Goohuman]

@PrisonerNumber9653 Pardon. It was obvious to me you are not a Christian and don't know much about the Bible at all in spite of your claims. I was only hoping to steer you to actually read more of the Bible with regards to why faith in God and social justice are at odds with one another. That is just one of many of Man's issues that people confuse with God. God bless you and help as you can, but any law forcing your beliefs on others is evil by its very nature. I hope you see that soon.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@Goohuman I haven't twisted anything. I know the basic tenets of Christianity very, very well. The poor are NOT poor in this nation from "giving what little they have away," they are poor because our evil system is rigged to help the rich get richer and the poor get further and futher behind, something NO Christian can support.

YOU are the fool, and a blasphemer, in saying God's grace for the poor is only to be the crumbs we don't want, rather than a system that helps those in need.

[Goohuman]

@PrisonerNumber9653 Then don't twist them and stop thinking so UNChristian-like. What fool would one have to be to even suggest such a thing?

I suggest you take your many years of Bible study and recall the basic tenants of Christianity. The poor may well be poor because they give what little they have to help others, just as God calls us ALL to do, including the fools. He does NOT call for you to give to someone else who will give FOR you. He calls you, rich or poor, to give. Don't be a fool.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@Goohuman I cannot think of anything more UNChristian than to take those words from Luke and pervert them into meaning "Christ says the poor will be blessed, so it's OK for us to do nothing about poverty and let them all die so they can get their reward quicker." That's like these despicable people who refuse to oppose war, because the sooner we all kill each other, the sooner Christ will come back, a mindset that is as twisted as can be.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@Goohuman Society working together is the ONLY way poverty gets addressed. If every PENNY going to charity and churches went to services for the needy--no buildings, no salaries, no youth programs or postage stamps or electric bills or ANY overhead--it wouldn't come close to TOUCHING the need.Government is the only way to do it, and opposing this is based in greed, which goes directly counter to Christ's call.

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[PrisonerNumber9653]

@Goohuman Wrong all all counts. I would absolutely NOT be in favor of establishing an official religion--justice isn't just for Christians, we DO have a responsibility to promote it but that's true for followers of any major faith, or just decent human beings. I understand the tenets of Christianity very well.

It's slick, sleazy double talk to claim "Jesus wants us to help the poor, but only through a non-governmental agency," Jesus didn't put such nonsense on the call.

[Goohuman]

@PrisonerNumber9653 It sounds like you would be in favor of changing the first amendment to allow our government to establish an official religion, yet you don't understand the basic tenants of Christianity, even though you "read the Bible daily for decades". Christ didn't call for a government to do the work he left for his followers. Do you recall when the Lord came on the Sabbath in Luke 6. Particularly 20-24? What did he say about giving to the government to give to charity?

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@Goohuman Lie. I've read the Bible daily for decades, and there is NOTHING "baseless" in my arguments. Yes, Jesus preached love for one another, and that those who have more should share with others. "Government" is NOTHING but the reasonable tool to do so. Government DOES come into the picture for ANY Christian--we can have a government that follows Christian standards, or one that supports greed while killing people. NO Christian can support this.

Social justice IS God's justice.

[Goohuman]

@PrisonerNumber9653 You use a lot of CAPS and say a lot of BS.

No one who has actually read the Bible is going to buy your baseless arguments. Jesus preached love for God and love for each other. To those that have more, more is expected. The government never comes into the picture. The Romans came to Jesus, He did not go to them (until the Pharasees dragged Him to Pontius Pilate).

Social justice is MAN'S version. GOD'S justice is personal and complete.