Moronic priest talks about atheism on Fox News

This guy is simply laughable in his arguments. But what else to be expected on Fox News? Originally from One Good Move: http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/06/father_jonathan.html

The most obvious case in this is his first point: atheism in it's weakest sense does not say there is not a god. Atheism is simply the lack of theistic belief. An atheist is not primarily a person who believes that a god does ~not~ exist, rather ~does not~ believe in the existence of a god. It's that simple. Atheists always leave open the possibility there is this weird cosmic thing-a-ma-jig, we simply demand some evidence before believing in such. None has come forward that hasn't been thoroughly refuted.

Suffer your atheism? What does this even mean? Oh, the simple declaration that the world makes more sense if god exists. Maybe in terms of "It's easier to teach, therefore is true." But even this is pathetic -- just try to give a coherent explanation of the Trinity. Oh yeah, LOADS of sense from Christianity.

As for atheism being elitist, I'm actually for that. What's wrong with being elitist, if you are trying to encourage people to join the elite rather than being exclusive? I somehow doubt that is what the priest was trying to convey.

Next, if this guy is going to idiotically claim the eye is an example of evidence for a creator, he obvious has NOT read The God Delusion, nor really anything on the creation debate in 10 years. Some examples:

"The anatomy of the human eye, in fact, shows anything but "intelligence" in its design. It is built upside down and backwards, requiring photons of light to travel through the cornea, lens, aqueous fluid, blood vessels, ganglion cells, amacrine cells, horizontal cells, and bipolar cells before they reach the light-sensitive rods and cones that transduce the light signal into neural impulses-- which are then sent to the visual cortex at the back of the brain for processing into meaningful patterns.

-Michael Shermer, Why Darwin Matters: The Case Against Intelligent Design"

For more of this, see these videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ybWucMx4W8 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=furcepFlfZ4

And here: http://www.embl.org/aboutus/news/press/2004/press28oct04.html -- http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB301.html

"Geological reality?" Again, what does this mean? Geology is one of the major fields of study that fundamentally disprove the creationist world view. See here for such topics: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CD

The birth of a child? A biological reality. There's a miracle in this? It surely is a terrific thing, but I seem to recall that if something is utterly common, it's not a miracle. Not to mention Christianity's own insane confusion between the sanctity of life, and their utter disgust and contempt at the mechanism of how that's brought about (sex). Yet more "sense" from religion: can't even tell you what's sacred and what is profane without getting very confused.

90% of people believe in god -- so what? Routinely, around 30-40% of the American population says they believe the earth is 6-10,000 years old. 48% reject evolution -- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17879317/site/newsweek/
41% of people think Iraq was linked to 9/11 (I wonder what the overlap is with Fox News viewers). Simply because something is popular does not make it true.

And if you think 90% of the US population being religious is reassuring, be afraid! The numbers are going down: http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/paul07/paul07_index.html -- http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2007/05/the_4th_largest_religion_no_re.php

A big reason why seems to be that each successive generation in America gets progressively more and more secular: http://thestoneoftear.blogspot.com/2007/05/pew-gives-some-interesting-informa...

How do you get 90% of Americans to agree on religion? When you indoctrinate them from a young age, it's quite simple.

List of transitional fossils: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC200.html

Fox News sues for the right to lie to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw

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[lazyperson217]

To discuss atheism lets bring in a priest WTF

[messakg123]

Miracle of pregancy...? *facepalm*

[matthewtaylorbrown]

LOL, great idea. There is a new atheist book out, so let's ask a priest. At least we know he wasn't buggering anyone while he was on TV.

It has nothing to do with the Christian god; there are no gods.

We don't suffer our atheism, this guy has no idea of the atheist perspective. He is projecting how he would feel to be an atheist as it would be an undesirable state of being for him. The lady just talks out of her ass.

[illegallyblind]

Fox hires the dumbest women correspondents. Listen lady, I pushed out a baby 2 years ago tomorrow, I tore in two places and I got a pretty great kid out of the deal. I love my daughter, and I get very emotional/spiritual when interacting with her, but that doesn't imply there is any sort of a god. My parents used this argument on me all the time: oh, not sure there's a god huh? Well, having a baby will change your mind! No way. Totally ridiculous.

[QcatDoesGames]

@MrManiacMetal You are a gnostic atheist, also referred to as an anti-theist. You are in the minority among atheists, probably because claiming to know that no god or gods exist is as stupid as claiming to know that god/gods do exist.

[QcatDoesGames]

@MrManiacMetal Wrong. The term "agnostic" by itself means nothing. Atheist means a LACK of belief in god. Saying that atheism is a belief is like saying not collecting stamps is a hobby. An agnostic atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in god, but doesn't claim to KNOW that god doesn't exist. Most atheists fit in this category. An agnostic theist, on the other hand, would be somebody who believes in god but doesn't claim to KNOW it exists. Most theists are, however, gnostic.

[Shutteroos]

"I have a lot of Atheist friends." right....

[MrManiacMetal]

I am an atheist and although I find issues with his argument, I also find issues with your ideas on what is and is not atheist. An atheist does not believe in god, period. Atheists do not hold open the door for a possible trancendant divine, people that do that are agnostics. Atheists believe, without a shadow of a doubt that god or gods do not exist.

[searchlight18]

@physcoticnarcotic You're the brainwashed idiot,not me.Rattle your chains LOUDER so everyone thinks you're free.You bought into this atheism because you think you're above it all.You're a slave to it.There is a God. The 'media' guys are mostly atheists themselves.I don't know what you're talking about that they promote religion.Maybe,

40 years ago,not since 1999?

[physcoticnarcotic]

@searchlight18 Its obvious your just a fucking idiot, because all that the media endorses is religion which is sold by your state reps and government, especially during campaigning in order to gain votes. Thats why i do not trust the government or any type of religion when it comes to my life. Religion is a mental sickness which you are brainwashed into believing what they want you to, you clearly can not think for yourself you brain dead bitch.

[searchlight18]

@physcoticnarcotic: Do us all a favor and join the therapy group at your local

free clinic.Better get a shot of penicillin too,just to kill all STDs you might have picked while sitting on gas station toilet seats. There is a God;the media wants to manipulate and brainwash you into disbelief,so you'll by Ipods made in China and not care that you're being betrayed and sold-out by your representatives and government.

[physcoticnarcotic]

They love how religion is crammed down your throat every day in public, media, magazines but when athiests push their beliefs they always feel the need to challenge or disprove them. Thats why its my belief, its inside me, my thoughts not yours, so go babble only the certain bible verses that make you look good while you jerk off little boys in your past time