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Pastor Lassman's Lesson 11 - The Lord's Supper
http://www.messiahseattle.org/education/aic/videos/lesson_11/
Videos from the Adult Information Class on basic christian teachings at Messiah Lutheran Church in Seattle, Washington.

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  • This isn't criticism of the real presence, but I'm just wondering - why would we be consuming his body and blood? What's the purpose of that?

    And were the disciples receiving his body and blood too, at the Last Supper, before he was crucified?

  • @Reazzurro90 Hi..you ask a good question and the answer is simple 1) Because Jesus clearly says it and 2) bread and wine can't give the forgiveness of sins...only His body and blood can do that....so he says to "eat his body and drink his blood for the forgiveness of sins.....and yes..the disciples were receving his body and blood too at the last supper before he was crucified...because that's what he told them....thanks for the quetions and comments..

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    That makes sense. But does the Lutheran church offer an explanation as to why we consume his body and blood?

  • @Reazzurro90 HI......well, the only explanation that we can give is the one that Jesus himself gives ...we do it to receive the forgivness of our sins, because the body that we eat and the blood which we drink is the same body and blood that he gave on the cross to earn that forgiveness by paying for our sins anc cancelling our debt of sin to God.

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  • One of the mistakes the protestant reformationists (and even somtimes the RCC) does is trying to use scholasticism (human reasoning) to understand something our human minds can't comprehend or that we do not have complete revelation of. This scholasticism has led to the belief that the eucharist is merely a symbol

  • @JeffersonDinedAlone I realize that, but we are talking about a spiritual family in Christ. By consuming His flesh & blood, we as one body are united together by the same flesh & blood.

  • @catchzz Family often does not share the same flesh and blood. One example would be adoption. Another would be step-children. Family groups are defined more broadly than by same flesh and blood.

  • Is this not the same as #11?  Refer to my comments on "is".

  • @Reazzurro90 Ask yourself what makes a family a family. Family will share the same flesh & blood. Christ gave us a new covenant to make us part of His people. We as a Christian Catholic body all share in the same flesh & blood as it truely becomes only His flesh & blood. We know this by His words. We can all be one just as He commanded when we come in communion to share in His Supper. Food always nourishes the body but the special meal shared in His Communion nourishes in the most spiritual way.

  • @nschaub

    Thank you!

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