A Taiji Counter Throw

This is a typical example of how taiji can be used in push hands.

Category:

Sports

Tags:

• pushhands
• throw
• Han
• Yue
• ChenZhonghua;

[neijiachuan]

Nobody said it was a mystery.

[Capoeirista81]

No, he led him into emptiness son! We do this in Judo too. I did it to somebody in class as a matter of fact

[MMAStyleful]

ohhh it cool ! ! !

[jhimm]

@selfcritical Yes, that's exactly what I said. It is not strength, it is about emptying the right foot before it is swept.

I have no interest in getting into a semantic debate about the words "respect", "sport" or "athlete" since we're talking about concepts understood and expressed in two different languages it is not possible to construct common etymological ground for the conversation.

[selfcritical]

@jhimm It's only against the rules used in US competitions. This is perfectly legal in chinese competition, where this is a respected sport- and like any other sport, you have to be an athlete to win.

That said, it's a timing-based counter, not strength. If he was just muscling it, then the counter-throw would take place on the same railroad-tracks as the initial throw- you would use force and posture to resist the attempt to break your balance and then execute your throw when it rebounds,

[jhimm]

How is this "push hands"? Both of them moved at least one foot, which is against the rules of competitive push hands.

[jhimm]

@QueUnlimited He stepped backward, not forward. It is more likely an application of Repulse Monkey or something similar. Stepping forward and stepping backward are completely distinct within the thirteen kinetic energy and Brush Knee Twist Step is all forward.

[jhimm]

@Belphybear That couldn't be less accurate. The preemptive step backwards with the left foot has nothing to do with strength. The guy in beige is trying to step behind two feet which are sharing equal weight, & sweep the right one to create imbalance & uproot. By stepping back with the left foot preemptively, all weight is on the left & the right foot which is being swept is "empty". Sweeping it ceases to have value, meanwhile beige has over-committed, off-balance & easily uprooted.

[monkfg]

@berner

Couldn't say it better!

[monkfg]

This happened to me some times in standup grappling. I just stood there and my opponent basically threw himself. You need to have weight in your front leg and a deeper centre of gravity than your opponent. In Tai Chi this is called "root".

[bdzbk1]

I mean wrestling catagory not Taiji push hand.

[bdzbk1]

This is not Taiji push hand .both side use way too much their own strength. They haven't get into Taiji door yet not even close.they can only put into rasuling