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dude having balls is the balls
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@giftedkidrules Socialism can go wrong by one ambitious leader or group, and Capitalism as a form of government is controlled by groups of wealthy. The men and women with lots of money could easily control television, radio, and other forms of information distribution.
One could easily endorse news station and only broadcast propaganda supporting ideas you approve of. "I have money, do this" in capitalism works as well as "I'm your leader, do this" in socialism.
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@giftedkidrules It's becoming less possible. Back in 1968 a student could work 7 hours a week at minimum wage to pay their annual tuition. Now college is more a private investment like buying a house.
I agree with you on the socialism seeming like the easy way out to the people that make bad decisions, but there are situations where bad things can happen to you. Capitalism says hope you have insurance when things go downhill. Charity goes against the competitive nature of capitalism.
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@giftedkidrules It's hard to get a job if you're homeless and have no documented skills. Hard to go to school without money, Hard to get money without a job,
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@giftedkidrules If your family is rich, it's a lot easier for you to stay rich. Parents paying for school, having a strong family business, inheritance and other gifts help.
Personally dont like capitalism or socialism. The difference in the standard of living between wealth and extreme wealth isn't so much. The difference between homeless and substandard life is huge, and little income makes a big change.
Historically, capitalism and socialism are both abused by the greedy and ambitious.
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@giftedkidrules I mean if you were a very wealthy person, if your job requires little skill or experience when it's time to retire, would you hire the person best for the job, or someone you would like to be in a good place?
Point being skill, hard work, and experience don't exactly have a linear relationship with wealth when dealing with the very successful.
Going to college or a vocational school help you get a better paying job, but there's a sense of royalty with wealthy families.
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@giftedkidrules So the owner of a bank is more skilled than a surgeon? or the doctor just didn't go to school as long as he/she?
The family you're born into also has a big effect on what skills you learn. Many people have poor families and still turn out successful, hard work and dedication etc. The opposite is also true. I don't think the people squatting on the 13 trillion dollars that would create 9 million jobs would just hire anybody with the knowledge and experience to replace them.
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@giftedkidrules Okay, so the man that works three jobs or his wife raising three kids dont work as hard as the CEO of a company, justifying how much money they make.
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And what about the people who work hard but due to their surroundings and in some cases the very nature of the system they live under are never given the chance to succeed? What of those who are blessed with an innate capacity towards this or that field (science, for example) but due to the circumstances of their birth/upbringing will never have a realistic opportunity to accrue the necessary funds for a higher education, and have next to no positive peer examples to go by?
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Apparently I know more about what I'm talking about than I thought I did, judging from the comment you just dropped
That is exactly the social darwinism I spoke about, the underlying assumption that anyone who hasn't made it has only himself to blame. It's a cruel mentality that I would understand from someone who outright admitted that he was an evil bastard, but it's the fact that so many christians adhere to this mentality that interests me. Don't they see the hypocrisy?
To all those people who drop this argument "socialism sounds nice, but only works on paper" - well, capitalism also only works on paper, and it doesn't even sound nice.
konrad303 1 year ago 9
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Or maybe that's the whole point? Even kids on a bus are questioning government methods.
MaudDeLarge 1 year ago 6