Rachel Maddow Vs Anti-Gay Ugandan MP David Bahati - Part 2

8 December, 2010 MSNBC

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[pussycatjayne]

homosexuality is found commonly in the animal world there are a pair of gay penguins in central park zoo, where they 'recruited' by some evil gay penguin master? Really? This guy is a knob, I go to church as a Christian and hate to see religion used as a weapon so sad :'-(

[agf1pot]

If this ignorant animal thinks gay people are going to walk into the gas chambers at his request, no questions asked. HE CAN THINK AGAIN. It happened once before, BUT THIS TIME WE FIGHT!

[justfourthen]

@samthor Interesting...so by your logic are you implying being in a homosexual relationship is right but indulging in male prostitution is wrong?

[justfourthen]

@samthor I agree with you that , "killing the gays" is over the top, I believe Jesus "would have reproached the gays and told them to - go and sin no more-. Once they are consenting adults its their choice - on judgement day I believe each man will answer and be judged on his/her account , its not for any man to condemn anyone to death, unless it has breached a "countries laws( which excludes homosexuality)" and gone through a fair judicial process.

[justfourthen]

@samthor I knew this was going to come soon!!! Jonathan and David were just very good friends and there is no evidence to suggest that their relationship was sexual , in fact, David loved women so much, even in his old age!!! ,he had four wives and even slept with someone's wife !!! Jonathan had wives as well and children , one of which David spared as he was a cripple to show the bond of their friendship!

[samthor]

@justfourthen The word "homosexual" did not even appear in the Bible until 1946. In fact, my copy of 1 Cor 6:9-11 says nothing about homosexuals and instead uses the word "sexual perverts" which could very well be heterosexuals. If we go back to the original writing the word is "arsenokoites" which could be translated in a number of ways; "male prostitute" for one example. Which again makes any and all of these anti- gay passages outdated and misinterpreted as the passages about owning slaves.

[samthor]

@samthor To explain away 90-95% of the Bible and then demand constitutional amendments and laws based on a few scant passages that have been translated & interpreted a certain way is bullshit hypocrisy. Remember we are talking about "KILL the gays" here. Where is the outrage over "thou shall not kill"? I'm sure that can be conveniently explained away as well. If heaven exists, there's way more gays in attendance than religious hypocrites.

[samthor]

@justfourthen My bad. Lev 19: 27. I suggest you read Samuel 1 & 2 which is two entire chapters of the Bible devoted to a love story between 2 men. David loved Jonathan more than women. And then try to explain it away. Oh this passage is misinterpreted and outdated. That passage means something else entirely. Well guess what? all the supposed anti- gay passages are outdated and misinterpreted!

[justfourthen]

@samthor I suggest you read (1 Corithinans 6 :9-11) where it depicts clearly what kind of people are likely not to go to heaven. And in the list homosexuals are included. Leviticus 20:27 does not talk about hair cuts but about consulting mediums! -"Any man or woman who consults the spirits of the death shall be stoned to death...". The latter scripture does entice Christians to start touching snakes or drinking poisons , but in case they harmed by any mentioned .they will not be harmed.

[samthor]

@justfourthen Hair cuts- Leviticus 20:27 Snake handling- Mark 16:17-18 & Luke 10:19. Try to use the Bible to justify homophobia? (try actually reading it first) I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy. You can try to interpret and justify the slavery passages to your advantage. So what? So can I. This is why you can't base laws on scriptural interpretation. This is why church must be separated from the state. People are actually dying & suffering because of this church spewed hate.

[justfourthen]

@samthor Its not picking and choosing , its about the misinterpretation of the scriptures to argue your fragile point.Divorce in Christianity is permissible only on the grounds of infidelity, the bible is not against haircuts!! Snake handling!!?? (what are you on about)? Speaking in tongues is not THOUGHT , it comes naturally under the guidance of the holy spirit.You can go and embark on an enslavement spree but it would not be under any biblical basis,its just to gratify your conscience

[samthor]

Don't forget, this is all the result of American missionaries invading African cultures. forcing their religious views (mixed w/ their conservative politics) onto the locals. This is the result. Ppl who are perceived as gay are being attacked & killed. Plus the witch hunts. Africans killing their own children b/c they might be using "black magic". This is the fruit of Xtian missionary work. & are any of them taking responsibility? Are they doing anything to reverse the damage they caused? Nah.