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@swarmcrow ODSTs were never involved with training the Spartans; as a matter of fact the majority of them hold much resentment of the Spartan program that became synonymous with the ODSTs after John-117 killed 3 ODSTs without his bare hands. But you are right in one point; Spartans have become the bannermen of the future - they seem to be warrior gods, as opposed to the standard Marine who considers every kill he makes worth a million medals, because that's exactly what it is.
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@NamelessSolider Sorry old chap, but no. The ODSTs never trained the Spartans.
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@KNDReaper As a result there would have spawned an infinite number of chances for the war to have never happened, and vice-versa. And ironically, no - the rebellions were seemingly crushed to the UNSC, but reading Halo: Glasslands gives you greater insight into the future of the Halo universe. Entire colonies have become Insurrectionists, and it was primarily because of the fact that the UNSC created the Spartans and then utilized them as weapons. It could have been the exact opposite
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@KNDReaper Well...that's like the half-full/half-empty cup perspective. It generally just boils down to your point of view, and yes, you're right - but put it this way too. If the Japanese hadn't attacked, then there wouldn't have been an atomic fallout in the first place. Likewise it's possible that if Dr Halsey hadn't taken those kids the universe might have altered and there might never have been a Human-Covie war. I'm sure you're familiar with the theory of parallel universes.
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@swarmcrow So... Your pretty much proving my point. If there were no ODST's, there would be no Spartans.
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@NamelessSolider not quite,,, if I had to say, I think the Spartans are better than odst ,, but only because they been trained since children hood "BY" ODST
with that said, I really don't like how they are now display more like some kind of superheros instead of special operation soldiers
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@TANSKBD Ok, Many people agree that dropping nukes in WW2 was a horrible thing, but they also agree that it was the fastest way to end the war, right? It killed innocent people, but it ended up saving more than it killed. Well... Cant the same be said for the Spartans? It was a horrible thing, but it would have ended rebellions with fewer lives lost, right? So in the long run, it was the best thing for humanity as a whole.
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@TANSKBD 4 or them died, I believe 12 were wounded to heavily to be combat effective. Considering if it were anyone but them, all would have died, I would call it surviving the fall. As for the whole Child Soldier thing being bad. Well.. Yea, its morally wrong, sick, and abuse of the UNSC's power, but I still see why they did it, and agree with their choice. In the end, even with out the covenant, it would have still saved lives.
Since im about out of space, I'll pause here.
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@KNDReaper Hate to burst your bubble, but I have read the book. And the idea of abducting kids and making them soldiers doesn't sit well with me. I mean, just because they killed so many doesn't justify the fact that you stole them from their families. Their bio-augmentations killed off nearly half of them, and crippled quite a few others. And for a matter of fact, the team didn't survive the fall. Three or five Spartans died - the highest Spartans casualties in a single act ever.
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@TANSKBD ... But Chief isnt full of Steroids. Since your recommending books, I suggest Fall of Reach. They were Bio-augmented, trained from the age of six, super soldiers. A huge part of why the spartains pulled off everything that they did was because they had been together their whole lives, knew how each other thought, and were enhanced with the best the UNSC had to offer. Which wasnt steroids. It was a bit more complex. Steroids wont let you and your team survive a fall from Orbit.
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leo11018 1 month ago 42
ODST are the same as Spartans... Without the Steroids.
NamelessSolider 1 month ago 29