HHO by Scarecrow Labs 20080317.B

Discussion of the effect of neutral plates. How to configure an HHO electroyzer for various voltage ranges using a series cell plate design.

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• HOH
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• Electrolysis
• Water
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• Hydrogen
• diy
• gadget
• oxyhydrogen
• hydroxy

[fuelban]

You know scarecrow, we " ALL" have Holidays in our perceptions & knowledge base, ( It is called being Human I believe ! LOL... ), you done well with this video in "The teachings".... It is important to get younger guys involved for sure.

Thom in Scotland.

[SmartScarecrow]

@fuelban - its been a long time since I reviewed this video - while the facts I present are accurate, the quality of the production sure leaves a lot to be desired - the sound on this recording is terrible - oh well, I never claimed to be a Spielberg

[BeetleJuice1980]

amazing video! now everything is clear!

one question : when you talk about "gap" 3volts that means that each "face" of the plate has half that voltage? meaning 1,5 volts? or you mean that each "face" is using 3 volts?

very good that you make the square plates rotated by 45 degrees , i guess that helps the gas to consentrate to the top more easy .never seen that again !

another question is if each plate has the same holes for the gas.

thank you so much ! masterpiece!

[SmartScarecrow]

@BeetleJuice1980 - actually, what I measure is the voltage on any two adjacent plates in the system ... what I am interested in, is controlling the voltage that the fluid between any two plates is exposed to ... typically, 2.2v-2.5v has proven to be most efficient ... at 3v per gap, the system starts to generate more heat than gas ...

the diamond layout did not really perform any better but was something I had to try ... round works well too ...

[BeetleJuice1980]

@SmartScarecrow

hmm round must be better than diamond , maybe you are right..

and maybe round rubber spacers are more easy to cut than squear...

maybe i should try the round type ..

so you mean that if i use 220volts (greece here) rectified i would need something between 89 and 101 plates .

and if i am right then i can use 101 plates and if i need more voltage per plate i can disconnect some plates to simulate a "89 plate" cell..

correct?

[SmartScarecrow]

@BeetleJuice1980 - I have done round ... no real performance difference, but I can see where there might be mounting or some other advantage for tall and skinny, short and fat, round, square or some other shape ... the key is enough surface area to support the total watts input and enough neutral plates to control the input voltage ... and yes, my 240v device has 115 plates ... build for the voltage is most efficient ... pull a plate or two; add a plate or two; as needed ...

[SmartScarecrow]

no ... I have built the device in such a way that temperature is not a problem ... there is adequate surface area to support the total current the device was designed for ... I control amperage by carefully controlling the volume of KOH I mix in the distilled water when I prepare my electrolyte fluid ... PWM's that are able to handle the current demands of devices operated at 90-160vDC at 10-40 amps are hard to come by ... I am working on such a PWM now ...

[DavidASmith72]

Have you tried experimenting with Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) through your electrolyzer to reduce the amps and heat generated?

[SmartScarecrow]

if you compress it enough to get it up around 1100F it will auto ignite ... but it will take some serious compression to get it there ...