Dissidia 012: Duodecim - Cloud vs. 000 Feral Chaos (Perfect Run, EX mode abuse)

Forget EX Revenge Garland or Mega Flare spam Yuna. EX mode Cloud is where it's at.

(Bravery Regen! That's what I forgot AGAIN!)

Equipment:
Fenrir (HP Wall Rush +20%)
Chainsaw (HP Wall Rush +20%)
(none)
Auto-Crossbow (Physical Damage +15%)

Accessories:
Hyper Ring (Damage +5%)
Muscle Belt (Physical Damage +7%)
Sniper Eye (HP Wall Rush +10%)
HP = 100% (x1.5)
Large Gap in HP (x1.5)
No Damage (x1.5)
Maintain EX Mode (x1.4)
Pre-Guard (x1.5)
Hatless (x1.5)
Level Gap 30 (x1.5)

It's possible that EX mode Cloud has by far the easiest time with Feral Chaos. Why? Because his unique Ultima Weapon (Crush) bonus raises all of his melee attacks to high priority, which means they outright beat all of Feral Chaos's brave attacks in priority. You can pretty much just keep attacking and not worry about being parried or blocked (except by, say, Deus Iratus). The whole x2 damage bonus when at full health doesn't hurt either.

Cloud's unique bonuses in EX mode make it worthwhile to do the entire fight like this. Other characters just don't do as much damage in their EX mode in the context of this boss fight, which doesn't justify opening yourself up to EX break from Feral Chaos's assist. Or they can't land HP attacks as reliably as Cloud can, and thus don't get to abuse EXP to EX as often. However, I might still try this setup on someone else again sometime, if I feel it's worth it.

I've watched several other players try Cloud for this fight before, and thought I'd do it using what I believe to be an optimal damage setup for this fight. The only thing I'd consider changing is Fenrir vs. Ultima Weapon. At full health, Ultima Weapon has +1 ATK over Fenrir, but Fenrir has the whole wall rush damage bonus going for it. My reasoning was that if I can hit 9999 brave with Fenrir anyway, then the +1 ATK doesn't really help me, while the HP wall rush damage is always useful. You can still go either way, though.

For accessories, I just went with more damage and wall rush boosts. Mathematically speaking, the best damage %+ build should use Hyper Ring + Muscle Belt/Earring, and as many boosters as you can afford to keep up. If you add, say, a Power Ring, that's only +3% to the +12% you already have, for a flat boost of x1.25 even after factoring in your other boosters. If you used any x1.3 booster that you can always keep up (like Pre-EX Revenge), then you're already getting more of a bonus from that than from the Power Ring (and you're boosting that Sniper Eye too!).

Let's do the math:

Damage:
2x Cloud's EX mode bonus
200% Base for critical damage (Fragile Pride + EX Critical)
+190% damage bonus from accessories
+15% damage bonus from equipment (Auto-Crossbow)

Plug that in to the damage formula: (% bonus and critical bonus add, Cloud's EX bonus multiplies)
(200% + 205%) x 2 = 810% of normal damage. Yeah, that's a lot.

HP Wall Rush:
+40% from equipment
+158% from accessories
25% base + (25% x 1.98) = about 74% of HP hit on wall rush

Gosh, after all of that...where do I go from here?

Category:

Gaming

Tags:

• Dissidia
• 012
• Duodecim
• Final
• Fantasy
• Cloud
• Strife
• Ultima
• Weapon
• Feral
• Chaos
• Desperado
• God in Fire
• Cantata Mortis

[Anime35837]

How do you get Omnislash version 5 and Finishing touch? I got Cloud at level 100 and he does not got those attacks.

[Parallaxal]

@Anime35837 You need to master Sonic Break and Slashing Blow first to learn those attacks. All Brv > HP links require that you master the base brave attack first.

[aiwagakuin2]

i have chainsaw and auto crossbow, but i can't equip it on cloud? why??

how can i equip it?

[Parallaxal]

@aiwagakuin2 No character starts with the ability to equip machine items. You must first buy the Chemist's Lore from the shop, then trade it in to buy the ability to equip machine gear for that character.

[SwiftVagabond]

I would like to issue you a challenge mate.

Now try this fight again without Omnislash v5 AND without Finishing touch just like I did when I forgot to equip them (curse that labyrnth). I can assure you it will be frustrating, OH and I dont have ultimate equipment and accessories like you do so do whatever there.

I hate Clod, mainly because his moveset is bs on a head on fight (unless you use Tidus or Vaan like me). I needed to wittle him down to roughly 26 000 health before I stood a chance.

[Parallaxal]

@SwiftVagabond Although I'm rather busy with medical school right now, so I don't know when I'd find the time to do that.

[Amaya181]

"Don't mess with me." Cloud's nice way of saying, "Don't fuck with me."

[Amaya181]

"Don't mess with me." Cloud's nice way of saying, "Don't fuck with me."

[Gohauld]

Cloud: *doing some random but totally normal stuff like helping a friend* I dont know if I can do anything....

Cloud: *facing a big, badass, burning God of destruction who has lost any self-control he ever had and has killed all his super powered minion in a blink of an eye* I can handle this!

[aldreicht]

@RJ0512 Look at this video's description, look for those items.

[MasterVideo124]

You have hacked

[deathstroke869]

@1997MonkeyDLuffy yes

[RJ0512]

I still cannot defeat this dude with Cloud still its pretty pitiful for me

Im still trying to find a way to get stronger weapons

[ValentinoLouis]

@Anime35837 Master the skill

[Netherwolf6100]

Do you have a EX Mode combination that doesn't require Exp to EX and actually works outside simple 1-on-1 fights because a lot of builds and videos are always during 1-on-1 fights where its easy for anyone to build up EX and maintain it but in something like arcade mode, its damn near improbable to hold EX for more than 15 seconds. I want a build that lets you hold Cloud's EX mode for an entire fight easily from start to finish despite Cloud being strong enough to pummel any character without it

[1997MonkeyDLuffy]

Feral Chaos has an equipment named"Maximilian"!! Is there any way to "build"this item?