Conservative vs liberal viewpoint vlog 21

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[DeadlyRedRing]

Type III secretory system, a molecular syringe which bacteria use to inject toxins into other cells, appears to be a simplified sub-set of the bacterial flagellum's components. Whether the bacterial flagellum evolved from the type III secretory system or from another bacterial system, the existence of the type III secretory system proves that the bacterial flagellum is not irreducibly complex.

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing.A simplified sub-set of a motor does not work. Like you said, give examples. Many people, Bebee, think it does not work like a type III secretory cell. They think it has to many missing parts. Alex Binz, David Klinghoffer stated in thier paper "The ability to find function for some sub-part, such as the injection function of the Type III Secretory System (which contains approximately ¼ of the genes of bacterial flagellum), does not negate the irreducible complexity"

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing I In "The Origin of Species" Darwin stated: 'If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.'

Well, it has. No way to evolve in 'numerous, successive, slight modifications' so by Darwin's own theory, it fails.

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing - If someone is racist it colors the way they think. Then the assumptions they make are colored by what they think. Many people believed another raciest and his beliefs which he put into a book. Mein Kampf. Hitler wrote a book about his racists theories. I chose to critically look at the beliefs in that book through science. I chose to critically look at the information in the Bible through science. And I chose to critically look at evolution through science. You?

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing - 'you think' they were fired....If you think, that is supposition. Why not read about it. No they were fired for saying that all the evidence should be looked at with a scientific critical eye. They did not say that evolution did not happen, they just said we should treat evolution like science, not a religion with blind faith. If you were scientific, you would agree. By the way, I have no problem looking at creation evidence in a scientific critical way, what about you?

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing @DeadlyRedRing - I find it funny you can't see it takes as much faith to believe to believe in evolution and time travel and it would to believe in God. Your faith is in what you believe, and my faith is what I believe.

Faith- something that is believed especially with strong conviction;

I think you have a strong conviction.

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing - I find it funny you can't see it takes as much faith to believe to believe in evolution and time travel and it would to believe in God. Your faith is in what you believe, and my faith is what I believe.

Faith- something that is believed especially with strong conviction;

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing - I was talking about the scientific method, not the second law of thermodynamics, and that applies everywhere.

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing - "time travel"You have got to be kidding..There is NO evidence for time travel.You would rather believe in time travel with no evidence rather than that there is a God which has a lot of evidence which you ignore. That is not scientific, that is fantasy. You don't want to discuss things logical,but just throw illogic around ambiguously. Go tell a scientist about time travel.You just want to argue with no evidence and make crap up.Good luck with your views, I will pray for you.

[bfrance2002]

@DeadlyRedRing - "time travel"You have got to be kidding..There is NO evidence for time travel.You would rather believe in time travel with no evidence rather than that there is a God which has a lot of evidence which you ignore. That is not scientific, that is fantasy. You don't want to discuss things logical,but just throw illogic around ambiguously. Go tell a scientist about time travel.You just want to argue with no evidence and make crap up.Good luck with your views, I will pray for you.

[DeadlyRedRing]

@bfrance2002 The dinosaur and human footprint is unlikely to be legitimate, but even if it was, given the strength of the evolutionary theory, I would say this is evidence for time travel and not a point against evolution.