:/ I dont really get why people think the Romans were all barbaric and selfish people, they were among the first to give people a welfare like system and grain storage for the poor. The Romans were actually moving really quickly for their time medically as well thanks to open minds. Militarily nobody could touch them for hundreds of years they just crushed everyone. And least we forget the Indian empire and its contributions to the world along with the Chinese Dynasties(all pre Christ)
@geomusicmove ok ok i wont start a debate with you but if you read any of the books of the old testament then you can judge if your god hates killing raping and stealing.
@collyera01 Not another one! you know how many comments I've written here? enough. I'm not gonna start a discussion with you, but yes, I know of the Greeks, great architecture and war machine (they fucked against the Romans though) for technology, a caste system, slavery and a ruling elite for democracy, self indulgence for ethics. could go on with the Romans, Egypcians and so on. And the Celts? I may be of celtic origin but seriously? Goodbye now and and happy New Year
@geomusicmove also the Europeans were savages, where did you get that information. ancient Greece brought huge advancements in Democratic government, ethics, and technology. the ancient Celts as well as any number of other ancient societies in Europe had ethics codes and were far more moral then the christians who ended up starting the Burning Times, the Crusades, the Inquisition, along with other abominable acts.
@geomusicmove yeah cause that makes any sense at all. you contradicted yourself in this paragraph. in most of the middle east (before Islam) there were only tribal religions and you said they were the engine of progress and striving society (which they were, they were the leaders of medicine and technology at the time),but you also said people were savages without Christianity to guide them.
Yes, pretty much, before christianity our eropean ancestors were a bunch of savages and also thanks to christianity we've been able to stave off islam, and I'm not talking about the religion itself but its political system which stifled development in the arab world that before islam was an engine of progress and striving society, that's what christianity has allowed: progress. I'm not a conservative, I believe in a good balance between modern and traditional values
@Sweddude Ok, that set of laws of behavior you described to many people is the bible, and in our western societies criminal codes of law and constitutions are based in the bible. Like it or not, christinanity is the foundation of our civilization (western I mean). You're an idealist who live in a bubble, in order for you to enjoy your bourgeois life style or way of thinking others are fighting for it. Think about it if you don't like hypocrisy
I'd take that Oliver Cromwell quote more seriously if I didn't know it was an excuse for ethnic cleansing...
IoEstasCedonta 1 week ago
:/ I dont really get why people think the Romans were all barbaric and selfish people, they were among the first to give people a welfare like system and grain storage for the poor. The Romans were actually moving really quickly for their time medically as well thanks to open minds. Militarily nobody could touch them for hundreds of years they just crushed everyone. And least we forget the Indian empire and its contributions to the world along with the Chinese Dynasties(all pre Christ)
TheDreadedlife 3 weeks ago
@geomusicmove ok ok i wont start a debate with you but if you read any of the books of the old testament then you can judge if your god hates killing raping and stealing.
collyera01 3 weeks ago
@collyera01 Not another one! you know how many comments I've written here? enough. I'm not gonna start a discussion with you, but yes, I know of the Greeks, great architecture and war machine (they fucked against the Romans though) for technology, a caste system, slavery and a ruling elite for democracy, self indulgence for ethics. could go on with the Romans, Egypcians and so on. And the Celts? I may be of celtic origin but seriously? Goodbye now and and happy New Year
geomusicmove 3 weeks ago
@geomusicmove also the Europeans were savages, where did you get that information. ancient Greece brought huge advancements in Democratic government, ethics, and technology. the ancient Celts as well as any number of other ancient societies in Europe had ethics codes and were far more moral then the christians who ended up starting the Burning Times, the Crusades, the Inquisition, along with other abominable acts.
collyera01 4 weeks ago
@geomusicmove yeah cause that makes any sense at all. you contradicted yourself in this paragraph. in most of the middle east (before Islam) there were only tribal religions and you said they were the engine of progress and striving society (which they were, they were the leaders of medicine and technology at the time),but you also said people were savages without Christianity to guide them.
collyera01 4 weeks ago
Time to do the Christian limbo! woo! duh duh duh duh duuuh~
Pass the blood of Christ please!
NicholasKreuz 1 month ago
Yes, pretty much, before christianity our eropean ancestors were a bunch of savages and also thanks to christianity we've been able to stave off islam, and I'm not talking about the religion itself but its political system which stifled development in the arab world that before islam was an engine of progress and striving society, that's what christianity has allowed: progress. I'm not a conservative, I believe in a good balance between modern and traditional values
geomusicmove 2 months ago
@geomusicmove Yeah right, because before christianity people where just runing rampart with killing and stealing.
All of those laws existed before christianity my friend.
Sweddude 2 months ago
@Sweddude Ok, that set of laws of behavior you described to many people is the bible, and in our western societies criminal codes of law and constitutions are based in the bible. Like it or not, christinanity is the foundation of our civilization (western I mean). You're an idealist who live in a bubble, in order for you to enjoy your bourgeois life style or way of thinking others are fighting for it. Think about it if you don't like hypocrisy
geomusicmove 2 months ago