AMAP-ADS is a full-spectrum Hard-Kill Active Defence System,which defeats a wide range of existing and future direct fire threats (KE + CE) at close range
@starknight97 CATTB in this respect is much better and more thoughtful design that gives a real advantage on the battlefield + out of this thing can be a lot of things to create (repair and recovery vehicle, a heavy IFV, heavy medevac, etc.)
@starknight97 In my opinion, FCS is a stupid program. While I like the future APC wich Americans planned to build on the FCS. Stryker certainly needs to be replaced. But created tank in the mass 20-30 tons with the same level armor protection as a tank weighing 65 tons is not possible, no new technology here will not help.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 besides the few picks just the cross over areas like lighter armor they wanted. Then a long range weapon systems, trophy hard kill system, Even the Cattb was totally new it was still on and had the m1 lower half. the 40ton FCS was the closest to a totally new tank. then the main fact that the cattb was just a test bed platform for trying new tech mean they are dumb if they don't use it more so since it the same platform but i don't think it'll get the 140mm or other goodies.
@starknight97 And what do you know about the modification of the M-1A3 ? It's just a modification of the M-1A2 or completely new tank as CATTB. Have you seen the video on YouTube where the train is carrying something similar to CATTB ?
The sides on the other Russian and Western European countries too, have lost much of their very interesting projects.
@starknight97 This missile is a project now like xm943 staff round. Very difficult to say whether it will be put into service or not. The high speed is needed to circumvent the NERA / ERA / APS types of protection. There's some unusual ammunition.
Americans need to complete the program CATTB in the middle of the 90s it was a stupid decision to close it.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 heard all kinds of wild things about the Sokol-1 from a FF version with 5km to a semi guided 12km range and a top attack 24km range speed very too make sense though since Russian missile tech so advanced. Will see when they come out as the xm-1111 is on delay for the m1a3. Fast be good but the have too be real fast too make a good defense to even think of betting active defense systems.
@starknight97 Agree but they have experimental Sokol-1 missile 24 km range and hypersonic top-attack. But this is only the project as xm-1111 is difficult to say to the missile entered service or not.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 because most are fat missiles they have too have a 120mm or less diameter. in the Russian case 125mm. xm-1111 would be better then allot of though with a 12km range.
@starknight97 I think Hellfire-2, JAGM, Meteor, Maveric, PARS is much better than all of these X-ROD, LOSAT, XM-1111, Reflex-m, Lahat etc. None of the modern tank can not stand getting into the roof of a heavy aircraft missiles.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 Reflex-m 1 of a few out their yes flaws but sounds better then Lahat yet lahat better on paper. true slow but heavy warhead yes the rpg28/29 are older now but kill any tank they hit. the lahat has the same size warhead and true on the 45 deg but that still top armor though easy kill if it hits the javelin only 60 deg down. yes they are all slow for now. As far as the M829E4 they making it to bet the new ERA but with the L44 gun on the m1 i dough they get it much better then a3.
Lahat ? Ok. It also needs to be backlit laser-like reflex. It is true only in the terminal phase. She often breaks down guidance, it is subsonic, and its real not penetrate 800 mm and about half that figure. In addition, it is not quite top-attack, it hits at an angle of 45 degrees and can be hit in the most powerful part of the tower where this thing can not penetrate the armor.
@starknight97 Russians say to me "reflex-m sucks". It's outdated rocket. It is a subsonic, long flies, needs pointing laser and useless in a meeting engagement, besides its range and penetrate insufficient in modern tanks.
@starknight97 xm1111 is closed. Russia have experimetal new "Sokol-1" tank rocket - hypersonic, fully automatic guidance and multispectral seeker, the ability to overcome the APS, NERA, ERA, SLERA etc armor types. Range of 24 km, with the possibility of targeting any other means. Russian uranium munitions were in the late '70s they were not hard to do, but they had a length limit for automatic charging. Shell of which I spoke has a segmented core like a M829E4.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 no the new t90ms and new ERA can defeat the M829A3 round and it barrel is a new Longer caliber higher pressure cannon adding too all current rounds. Pen in RH mm not yet out. then the new at-11 missile(9M119M Refleks) is of the same design as the rpg 28 with 4.5 kg warhead the same as the rpg 28. so it go right though it. then yes please explain on the Lahat lol i can't wait for this cause this kill the m1 even easier then the 9M119M Refleks will.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 a DU core and they all have it it had a uranium core the u.s. would be attack by the u.n. experimental don't count till it on the field like xm1111 lol. Man your lost Dm53 & 63 are not the same the 63 is a smaller charge on purpose. i have the test for the A3 as i worked subcontract in the field. when he made the Blazer ERA he was working for Rafael at the time subcontract most likely.
Last modified M-1 with depleted uranium mesh of the third generation has the durability of the KE round, more than 850 mm in the forehead. That is, it can not penetrate any French, German, Israeli, British, Italian, South Africa, China. Russia, etc. serial ammunition. In this case the M-1 itself can punch in the head all the other tanks due to M829A3.
@starknight97 M829A3 have a 930mm RH at 2000. DM53 and 63 it is almost the same thing, 63 is 53 with some modifications. Yes L55 has a higher pressure in the bore than L44 and any projectiles fired from L55 going to penetrate more.
@starknight97 Tanks Type 61 and Type 74 is largely copied from the american tanks.
Basically, I've heard about the projectile for 2A82 Russian gun with a coefficient of elongation of 1 to 68 (1 to 40 for M829A3) that exceeds the M829A3 and M829E4. But this shell with a uranium segmented core is an experimental.
Manfred Held working for a German firm IBD disenroth if I'm not mistaken.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 yes taken the tech of the time but they just keep going back Type 5 Chi-Ri. the m47 were too big for the japs. Dr. Manfred was under contract for Rafael when he made ERA blazer. then he not German. yes and the round NATO so any other 120mm can fire our great rounds in their much better guns. both the m1 and leo 2 are based on the MBT-70 which is based on the leo 1 which is based on the t44,t55.
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 i'm talking guns not ammo our ammo is what keep us going though take our round out of a L55 gun and it'll do much better yet. DM53 fired from L55 have penetration level 760mm RH at 2000m. M829A3 fired from L44 have penetration level 765mm RH at 2000m. then the 63 is a weaker charge anyway. then the lahat missile make up for the merks rounds easy. yeah but they don't have them.
@starknight97 Israeli M-322 and DM-63 German is much worse than the M-829A3. L55 gun and ammunition from Germans could not destroy the M-1 in the forehead, but only KSTAM ammo from this thing can be prevented. The transmission can be changed in any tank. In the experimental electricity transmission have to many countries.
@starknight97 Type 61 - to a large extent, this is an M-47, Type 74 - many taken from M-60. Do you think these tanks are self-development ?
Leo 2 was created by Leo tank 1, the American Army and the German had different requirements. Final Leo 2 was very similar to the prototype M-1 from the Chrysler. Firepower is dependent not only on the gun and the pressure in the barrel but also on the projectile, no country in the world does not have a serial analog M-829A3.
Then what the leo a copy of that right the MBT-70 lol. Will that unknown yet as it has a unknown composite and uses bot the ERA and NERA. the K@ has the most powerful western gun so first shot a kill anyway even vs the m1a2sep. Her suspension much better and uses KSTAM ammo giving the best range 8km.
@starknight97 CATTB in this respect is much better and more thoughtful design that gives a real advantage on the battlefield + out of this thing can be a lot of things to create (repair and recovery vehicle, a heavy IFV, heavy medevac, etc.)
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@starknight97 In my opinion, FCS is a stupid program. While I like the future APC wich Americans planned to build on the FCS. Stryker certainly needs to be replaced. But created tank in the mass 20-30 tons with the same level armor protection as a tank weighing 65 tons is not possible, no new technology here will not help.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 besides the few picks just the cross over areas like lighter armor they wanted. Then a long range weapon systems, trophy hard kill system, Even the Cattb was totally new it was still on and had the m1 lower half. the 40ton FCS was the closest to a totally new tank. then the main fact that the cattb was just a test bed platform for trying new tech mean they are dumb if they don't use it more so since it the same platform but i don't think it'll get the 140mm or other goodies.
starknight97 3 months ago
@starknight97 And what do you know about the modification of the M-1A3 ? It's just a modification of the M-1A2 or completely new tank as CATTB. Have you seen the video on YouTube where the train is carrying something similar to CATTB ?
The sides on the other Russian and Western European countries too, have lost much of their very interesting projects.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 nothing new the u.s. has canceled all their new tech worth a dam. i bet the new m1a3 is stealing from cattb lol.
starknight97 3 months ago
@starknight97 This missile is a project now like xm943 staff round. Very difficult to say whether it will be put into service or not. The high speed is needed to circumvent the NERA / ERA / APS types of protection. There's some unusual ammunition.
Americans need to complete the program CATTB in the middle of the 90s it was a stupid decision to close it.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 heard all kinds of wild things about the Sokol-1 from a FF version with 5km to a semi guided 12km range and a top attack 24km range speed very too make sense though since Russian missile tech so advanced. Will see when they come out as the xm-1111 is on delay for the m1a3. Fast be good but the have too be real fast too make a good defense to even think of betting active defense systems.
starknight97 3 months ago
@starknight97 Agree but they have experimental Sokol-1 missile 24 km range and hypersonic top-attack. But this is only the project as xm-1111 is difficult to say to the missile entered service or not.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 because most are fat missiles they have too have a 120mm or less diameter. in the Russian case 125mm. xm-1111 would be better then allot of though with a 12km range.
starknight97 3 months ago
@starknight97 I think Hellfire-2, JAGM, Meteor, Maveric, PARS is much better than all of these X-ROD, LOSAT, XM-1111, Reflex-m, Lahat etc. None of the modern tank can not stand getting into the roof of a heavy aircraft missiles.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 Reflex-m 1 of a few out their yes flaws but sounds better then Lahat yet lahat better on paper. true slow but heavy warhead yes the rpg28/29 are older now but kill any tank they hit. the lahat has the same size warhead and true on the 45 deg but that still top armor though easy kill if it hits the javelin only 60 deg down. yes they are all slow for now. As far as the M829E4 they making it to bet the new ERA but with the L44 gun on the m1 i dough they get it much better then a3.
starknight97 3 months ago
@starknight97
Lahat ? Ok. It also needs to be backlit laser-like reflex. It is true only in the terminal phase. She often breaks down guidance, it is subsonic, and its real not penetrate 800 mm and about half that figure. In addition, it is not quite top-attack, it hits at an angle of 45 degrees and can be hit in the most powerful part of the tower where this thing can not penetrate the armor.
What do you think about M829E4 round ?
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@starknight97 Russians say to me "reflex-m sucks". It's outdated rocket. It is a subsonic, long flies, needs pointing laser and useless in a meeting engagement, besides its range and penetrate insufficient in modern tanks.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@starknight97 xm1111 is closed. Russia have experimetal new "Sokol-1" tank rocket - hypersonic, fully automatic guidance and multispectral seeker, the ability to overcome the APS, NERA, ERA, SLERA etc armor types. Range of 24 km, with the possibility of targeting any other means. Russian uranium munitions were in the late '70s they were not hard to do, but they had a length limit for automatic charging. Shell of which I spoke has a segmented core like a M829E4.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 no the new t90ms and new ERA can defeat the M829A3 round and it barrel is a new Longer caliber higher pressure cannon adding too all current rounds. Pen in RH mm not yet out. then the new at-11 missile(9M119M Refleks) is of the same design as the rpg 28 with 4.5 kg warhead the same as the rpg 28. so it go right though it. then yes please explain on the Lahat lol i can't wait for this cause this kill the m1 even easier then the 9M119M Refleks will.
starknight97 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 a DU core and they all have it it had a uranium core the u.s. would be attack by the u.n. experimental don't count till it on the field like xm1111 lol. Man your lost Dm53 & 63 are not the same the 63 is a smaller charge on purpose. i have the test for the A3 as i worked subcontract in the field. when he made the Blazer ERA he was working for Rafael at the time subcontract most likely.
starknight97 3 months ago
@starknight97
Last modified M-1 with depleted uranium mesh of the third generation has the durability of the KE round, more than 850 mm in the forehead. That is, it can not penetrate any French, German, Israeli, British, Italian, South Africa, China. Russia, etc. serial ammunition. In this case the M-1 itself can punch in the head all the other tanks due to M829A3.
lahat is crap missile. I can explain.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@starknight97 M829A3 have a 930mm RH at 2000. DM53 and 63 it is almost the same thing, 63 is 53 with some modifications. Yes L55 has a higher pressure in the bore than L44 and any projectiles fired from L55 going to penetrate more.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@starknight97 Tanks Type 61 and Type 74 is largely copied from the american tanks.
Basically, I've heard about the projectile for 2A82 Russian gun with a coefficient of elongation of 1 to 68 (1 to 40 for M829A3) that exceeds the M829A3 and M829E4. But this shell with a uranium segmented core is an experimental.
Manfred Held working for a German firm IBD disenroth if I'm not mistaken.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 3 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 yes taken the tech of the time but they just keep going back Type 5 Chi-Ri. the m47 were too big for the japs. Dr. Manfred was under contract for Rafael when he made ERA blazer. then he not German. yes and the round NATO so any other 120mm can fire our great rounds in their much better guns. both the m1 and leo 2 are based on the MBT-70 which is based on the leo 1 which is based on the t44,t55.
starknight97 4 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 i'm talking guns not ammo our ammo is what keep us going though take our round out of a L55 gun and it'll do much better yet. DM53 fired from L55 have penetration level 760mm RH at 2000m. M829A3 fired from L44 have penetration level 765mm RH at 2000m. then the 63 is a weaker charge anyway. then the lahat missile make up for the merks rounds easy. yeah but they don't have them.
starknight97 4 months ago
@starknight97 Israeli M-322 and DM-63 German is much worse than the M-829A3. L55 gun and ammunition from Germans could not destroy the M-1 in the forehead, but only KSTAM ammo from this thing can be prevented. The transmission can be changed in any tank. In the experimental electricity transmission have to many countries.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 4 months ago
@starknight97 Type 61 - to a large extent, this is an M-47, Type 74 - many taken from M-60. Do you think these tanks are self-development ?
Leo 2 was created by Leo tank 1, the American Army and the German had different requirements. Final Leo 2 was very similar to the prototype M-1 from the Chrysler. Firepower is dependent not only on the gun and the pressure in the barrel but also on the projectile, no country in the world does not have a serial analog M-829A3.
DisgorgeKILLusa3 4 months ago
@starknight97 Dr. Manfred Held work for disenroth IBD
DisgorgeKILLusa3 4 months ago
@DisgorgeKILLusa3 lol what about the Type 61,Type 74
Then what the leo a copy of that right the MBT-70 lol. Will that unknown yet as it has a unknown composite and uses bot the ERA and NERA. the K@ has the most powerful western gun so first shot a kill anyway even vs the m1a2sep. Her suspension much better and uses KSTAM ammo giving the best range 8km.
starknight97 4 months ago