Futurama logically PROVES God has no free will!
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@pinball281 People are very scared of death and dont like the idea of ceasing to exist one day.
Honestly the thought that one day when you die you will simply not exist anymore really scares me.
You will not be able to dream, think, talk or do anything at all ever again.
Its really scary so many people prefer to think that there is an afterlife and that your life will continue in a different way after death.
Religious people are probably not as scared of dying one day as atheists are.
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@thunderf00t The amount of free will humans have, is relative to what we know, value, and believe, as well as the capacity of the individual due to natural selection. Faith plays another important role in determination in the area of mind over matter. Believing is seeing, and seeing is believing...
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You're making the same mistake any theist makes of applying certain facts and data to support what you believe, Thunderf00t... You apply the law of identity, which means everything in existence has something to identify it, but is relative to what is identical to other forms of matter in the universe. You leave out 7 natural laws of the universe which contradict your conclusion, and those 7 laws clearly prove that BOTH determination, and free will MUST exist.
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Humans!?
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The universe just invented itself and we have no purpsoe or after life, whats so hard to beleive about that?
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developing the idea that this is pure fact. Thank you
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This is not proof, in fact it's a disproven threory that was disproven long before many of you were ever born. Einstein disproved newton with the simple knowledge that light travels faster than anything else. So i.e newton's theory of gravity (which leads into this wound up clock idea) was already disproven, also with the findings of the expansion of the universe the wound up clock idea was disproven. I suggest reading einstein's theory of relativity and create a better understanding before
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@DoomShallot I think we have a misunderstanding. I don't believe in god. I agree, that's the default position because there is no evidence for it. (I don't call a deterministic universe 'fate' because fate implies there is a meaning or purpose). You've also applied the 'default' position incorrectly when it comes to determinism. You have to ask yourself why you have done that, is it just because it's not intuitive?. A deterministic universe is not supernatural and it's compatible with science.
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@burkerow I'm not being facetious; it's called compatiblism. If our choices weren't determined by our wants and desires, they'd just be random, and randomness is not free choice.
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@EMorner Your premises are sound but your conclusion is not. He knows that if he doesn't interfere in your diet, in 4 years time, you will have fries for dinner. He can interfere and make you have roast in 4 years but that won't make him wrong, since he knew that you will have fries IF HE DOES NOT INTERFERE. If he thought you would have fries, but then you had roast without his interference, then he is wrong.
Dont mis-title
Robethius 6 days ago 26
heheheeh "philosopher"
bwood1234qwert 1 day ago 7