Lenin's speech: The Middle Peasants ☭ Ленин: О крестьянах-середняках
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@boleroinferno The free market operates off of voluntary exchanges between individuals.
For this reason I oppose the legality of corporate person-hood, because a group of people cannot have rights.
The difference between a democratically controlled society and a free market republic is that the first listed operates with force and can take away the rights of 49% of the population if 51% wants to.
Voluntary exchanges are just, socialized governments are aggressive and forceful.
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@boleroinferno The only reason there are a few rich capitalists in the first place is because there is a government that they work with to pick and choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market work.
In a legitimate free market, the people have a choice of who they want to do business with and the employers have to make a quality product or else they will go out of business.
There is no incentive in a socialist/communist society, because everybody is paid the same.
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@ruvvjub The industrial technology that allowed the population to expand so greatly is also necessary for its maintenance.
The means of production, which society needs to survive, should be democratically controlled by that society instead of how it's controlled now, where a few rich capitalists control the means of production, which they use to throw people onto the street to increase profit margins, start wars so poor people can die to secure natural resources, take over governments..
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@ruvvjub You're talking about isolated subsistence farming. That may be possible, if you can avoid taxes and war, but it's not viable for a vast majority of society. The peasantry was actually what this speech is about, how the Bolsheviks just fought the civil war to grant them freedom from economic serfdom and now must respect their self-determination.
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@boleroinferno How in the hell is socialism not force? What if I disagree with socialism and want to just provide for myself and keep the fruits of my labor? Will the government force me to comply?
With a genuine free market in a republic you have choice. You can choose whether or not to belong to a socialist community or just live independently.
On a small scale socialism is great, as long as no-one is forced to comply with it. On a large scale it is nothing but a recipe for tyranny.
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@ruvvjub The Communist Manifesto isn't the in-depth materialist analysis for which Socialism draws its basis of theory from; it's basically a pamphlet summarizing communist views. To compare that to any other work which is meant to be theoretical (I don't know Hayek) is moot.
What you should read is Capital. This is the in-depth material analysis of capitalism which is still used to the present day by economists on both sides of the fence, though the author also means it is censored.
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@ruvvjub Democracy is the ultimate goal of Marxist socialism. Democracy is paid lip service to by pro-capitalists, yet if you look literally at the requirements of democracy, they contradict the economic structure of capitalism: media are owned by the rich, politicians are financed by the rich, laws are made by the rich, wars are fought for the rich. The American worldview is foremost a caricature drawn to show what things the ruling class wants to show; thus widespread ignorance.
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@ruvvjub You don't understand Socialism (/communism) if you think they require force. It is the exact opposite. In a democratic society, there is no force required.
Force becomes required when you have severe inequalities like those that are an inseparable part of capitalism. You can tell a non-democracy (non-socialism) because the police need to oppress peaceful protesters to maintain the power structure, wars are started by and for the profit of the few yet fought by the many.
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@boleroinferno Capitalism cannot exist without the defense of property rights and contracts by a government.
Believe me, I have thought though my ideas and the ideas of others. I have read books from both sides of the isle from The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx to Human Action by Frederick Hayek.
Individualism and the free market are the most logical and reasonable philosophies. Socialism and communism require force, capitalism and limited government allows choice.
Most Russians I've met have told me they lived better under communism.
Shukria123 7 months ago in playlist Revolutionary speeches! Hitzaldi iraultzaileak! 8
Stalin missed this speech!
aponilenin 8 months ago 6