Social Networks: The Good, the bad and the ugly
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I know this is an old video, but re: Diaspora:
FALSE, false false false.
Yes, diaspora is decentralized, but it's not peer-to-peer. "Pods", as Diaspora servers are called, are run on web servers. You can set up your own if you are comfortable administering a server, or you can join one of the numerous open pods, or the official one; and no, no-one ever said anything about paying. It's true that diaspora is different than fb, and perhaps not for everyone, but saying it's not a real SC is false.
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So let me get this straight. Because everyone can now set up a "facebook" for their communities, a server that can federate user statuses, messages and pictures between other similar social servers that's a bad thing and doesn't work? Diaspora, Appleseed, OneSocialWeb, GnuSocial and others all strive for a common good, a protocol they can all share these messages with. Imagine Facebook, MySpace and Orkut users being able to communicate with eachother from whithin their favorite services.
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Well you don't need to wonder how it will be implemented because they say in there faq.
Free option is for people who have a 24/7 computer that is private. Have a webserver running and have there routers ports open. Less then 1 percent of the population could actually do this.
Pay option is pay to have someone host the seed. I think less then 1 percent of people would even consider this.
Use your head.
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@newsofthenerd And hosting the seeds is another non-issue. I don't know how it will ultimately be implemented, but either Diaspora will offer it for free or probably a collection of independent and connected servers will host limited sized seeds for free.
People will run those servers like they run game servers. Nobody would be expected to mess with servers if they didn't want to, you just click and play.
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@newsofthenerd this fee / credit card thing is a non-issue. Nobody but you expects any fee or cc number to be a requirement. You took this from thin air, speculating on the possible problems of hosting the seeds, as opposed to running the seed yourself, which is the obvious free option.
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99 sents huh my server cost more then that. but even 99 will need a credit card. Again why this going to work where appleseed failed. You really haven't thought about this have you. The people who make up the 99.9% of those on social network sites will have no way at all to use this.
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@newsofthenerd I can't personally host 500 million, but I can be responsible for my own and those of my friends who don't have a box that runs 24 7. And collectively everyone can help each other face that 99 cents fee per year, that some people may have to theoretically pay, maybe. If it turned out to be that expensive, which I doubt. Probably the service will be hosted for free, supported by donations from the beginning. And that is only for those people who can't run it themselves.
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Wow that sounds secure. I guess you didn't read when I said I already have a shared server. I already have several websites. I am referring to normal people. Social networks start mostly from kids or young people. Most of which will have no idea what this is or how to start it and they don't have credit cards. but I am sure you can host 500 million yourself right. Do you really not understand this. I am sitting here scratching my head at you.
Pods are servers or as they are more commonly know as peer to peer. Also its DOD so you are some fan boy. Anyway you described it perfectly and its called peer to peer they just attempted to sell appleseed to a bunch of people willing to give up there money for a scam. It's not a new idea. Anyway its dead so good luck with fb or g+
newsofthenerd 3 months ago
No it didn't work did it. None of them did. It's to hard to implement. Most people have a hard enough time just logging in. They are not going to install a server on there smart phone. It's the past, not portable anti cloud.
newsofthenerd 9 months ago