Clinton Lavrov news conference (P1)

The first official meeting of the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been met with cautious optimism from both sides.

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[tiove]

putin is not ugly

[pianov83]

the russian media never demonized the US, even in a soviet period, but the american media constantly demonize russia, americans are demonize the russian policy and russian nation

[Hereiswhat]

Lavrov I curse you and everyone who likes you. Ask RTV what my curse does -really.

[xDrunkDevilx]

Competition? Yes. But to achieve great profit from selling the cure they need what? Yes, maxxed amount of infected. So they'll wait even if they already found the cure. More than that - due to free market anti-monopoly policy - they'll not be able to be the only sellers of the cure... So they'll have to wait again.

Whatever... Capitalism is not perfect and now the crisis prooves it.

[vivphy]

They have the incentive to find a cure before other pharmaceutical companies do (competition is an important component of a truly free market) because of the money they would make selling the cure... and you can't act like that was your original argument all along when you originally said that they have no incentive at all to develop these kinds of drugs!!

[xDrunkDevilx]

You said it yourself - "these companies make millions of dollars selling AIDS treatments", thus they have more interest in developing treatments instead of cure. Capitalistic way of life, so guess we'll not see any breakthroughs, that will leave big companies with no profit...

[vivphy]

I know there's no "cure" for AIDS yet, but these companies make millions of dollars selling AIDS treatments (because drugs do exist to treat the symptoms of AIDS, if not the cause)

[vivphy]

That's my point. Why doesn't Cuba have the industrial capabilities of capitalist nations? China may be "oriented on mass-production", but that leads to exactly what we're seeing: no major breakthroughs in the pharmaceutical industry from their country. Why is this the case? Because they lack the capitalistic incentive to produce the kinds of results we see from pharmaceutical companies coming out of capitalist societies.

[xDrunkDevilx]

Cuba, with all respect, has not enough developed industry to provide hi-tech research. China is oriented on mass-production, not single researches.

Btw, despite of all the millions of dollars capitalistic companies are providing to researches - no cure for AIDS is yet found. Maybe that's becouse of not enough lvl of education behind beautiful names of Schools, Academies and Universities of all kinds?

[vivphy]

That's why we see such "cures" coming from pharmaceutical companies in capitalist societies, not places like Cuba or China. Capitalism provides the kind of incentive for students to get through intensive degree programs like Medical School and Chemical Engineering that they wouldn't necessarily go through if all they had to look forward to was the kind of money doctors and biomedical engineers make in Cuba...

[vivphy]

That's not true at all! Pharmaceutical companies invest millions and millions of dollars in research for these diseases in anticipation of the profit they will make once they develop "cures."

[xDrunkDevilx]

Capitalism has one big "minus" in all the way of life it suggests... The main idea is that all you do must bring you profit. It means no one would pay for researches that won't give fast and fruitful results, such as AIDS study (yep, the do give some money to scientists, but it's still not enough, otherwise the problem would be solved long ago) There are lots of projects that would be very helpful to simple peopole, but wich won't produce money - and thus won't be developed in capitalism. Sad.