Twirch Ringen (Updated)

Throws from the Twirch (Thwart) stance and related techniques from Codex Wallerstein. When utilizing the Twirch stance the thrower positions himself to be somewhat askew to his opponent.
EDIT: We have made multiple refinements to our interpretations since shooting this video.

Category:

Sports

Tags:

• Twirch
• ringen
• liechtenauer
• ott
• codex wallerstein
• grappling
• throws
• martial arts
• memag
• fighting
• unarmed
• german
• talhoffer
• HEMA
• fechten
• wrestling
• kampfringen

[AkatsukiPR0]

I see you doing a lot of open handed strikes, is that in the Codex Wallerstein or is that your own?

[MEMAG]

@AkatsukiPR0 Codex Wallerstein shows many such strikes, but not explicitly in every instance that we show them in the video.

[tyroneart]

Very nice! The best German martial arts video I've seen so far. Keep up the good work on Ringen!

[MEMAG]

Thank you!

[wonderboy2402]

Watching this really does strike home, that the european martial arts were just as rich as the far east.

If anything, I would like to see these used more often say in films, because they really are different but nevertheless impressive.

[wharghoul]

wow, a lot of this looks really similar to judo.

i guess this just shows that really, there are so many techniques that work, and given enough time, anyone will figure them out.

[PissedFechtmeister]

@wharghoul Everyone is pretty much built the same way so techniques will be pretty much the same the world over. This applies to weapon techniques too.

[kaindrg]

what types of refinements did u guys make and why?

[LutzDerLurch]

@eisbombenhagel Thank you very much.

[eisbombenhagel]

@LutzDerLurch That should be "stella splendens" from the 14th century, but I could be wrong. But I can't tell who is performing it.

[eisbombenhagel]

@wonderboy2402 Actually they are not different at all! Just compare some moves of the Codex Wallerstein with – let's say – the Okinawa Bubishi and you'll notice *a lot* of similarities. Which would be totally logical if you take into account that human anatomy stays the same around the globe. But martials arts "change" beyond recognition when the purpose doesn't exist anymore, followed by turning into a dead art or sports.

[LutzDerLurch]

Might I ask what the Music Piece played is?



[Andrhens]

As far as i know, the ringen section in Codex Wallerstein shows some defenses against punches. Do you guys plan on posting them in a video?

By the way, excellent demonstration of ringen!

[battletank5000]

I'm impressed with this video, well done! i would like to ask however, if given the opportunity could these still be used today in someway or another?

[USER114145]

Also, in the first counter, you make a throw, I find absolutely no mention of a throw in the codex. The seccond counter does seem to fit with the text. Still, nice video. Verry inspiring.

[USER114145]

Nice vid. In the first move I see you using your shoulder to propell you adversary into the throw. Yet I see no mention of shoulderwork in the codex. There it stated that the enemy is to be pushed backwards. Yet this does look practical. This asks for some experimenting...