The Philippines, birth control and the Roman Catholic church (3 of 3)

In the next 30 years the population of the Philippines is set to double to 170 million. Contraceptives are frowned on and abortion is illegal but as Sharmeen Obaid-Chinay reveals, every year more than half a million Filipina women are so desperate they undergo harrowing illegal abortions, despite the fact that at least 80,000 end up seriously ill in hospital.

Category:

Nonprofits & Activism

Tags:

• philippines
• birth
• control
• roman
• catholic
• church
• poverty
• overcrowding
• womens
• rights
• illegal
• backstreet
• abortion

[squamish4244]

Imagine the problems that could have been averted had the Catholic Church allowed the use of contraception 40 years ago after Vatican II. Instead, the pope ignored the majority opinion of the people appointed to discuss the issue and stuck with Catholic dogma on birth control.

[anniemaggie53]

One report says that probably up to 80% of married Catholic couples in Europe use artificial contraception. Why? High standards of living, education and governments that promote contraception.

[DJmixmastermicro]

Roman Catholic Christianity = MIND-CONTROLLING POISON.

If you're a rational and logical person you should stop drinking it.

[srikargottipati]

@BalladoftheWindfish NFP is too tedious and highly impractical. Why go for it, when we have more efficient ways like contraception. 'There is no coherence of human rights under atheism'. LOL , there is no coherence of morality under religion too, so argument you have about murder is the same too

[srikargottipati]

@BalladoftheWindfish Yes your right regarding what my view is. But, again I don't agree with you that it is bad. Its not wrong to enjoy sex for the sake of pleasure only, as long as there is mutual consent for it. Partners need to have full right and leverage regarding the nature of their sexual relation and how they want to avoid natural repercussions of it. It has nothing dehumanizing in it, they can always go for pregnancy when the choose to. I'm only for choice and religion inhibits choice

[BalladoftheWindfish]

@srikargottipati ...that being said, natural methods such as NFP are much safer than artificial contraception and, if done right, are just as effective. Ironically, they are also more pleasurable and entirely in line with morality!

What I said is not a generalization. There is no coherent view of human rights under atheism, so any argument you have about "rights" is simply incoherent.

[BalladoftheWindfish]

@srikargottipati That view is entirely the cause of so much pain and suffering - sex has its natural end in pregnancy. To make sex an end unto itself is to make it nothing more than two objects pleasuring each other, and pregnancy becomes an unintended side-effect that needs to be aborted. Your view dehumanizes and separates sex from pregnancy so that every pregnancy becomes an "unwanted" one. Abortion is then seen as the solution. So it precisely her religion that has the correct view...

[srikargottipati]

@BalladoftheWindfish Yea, what does your religion say when she wants to have sex with her husband, but not get pregnant ? The fact here is that its her religious dogma that caused her the pain. LOL stupid generalization about Atheism. OK, then under your view of religion, there is nothing known as morality either. Since religious people don't have morality, your argument of murder also falls apart.

[BalladoftheWindfish]

@srikargottipati No, it is her religion which tells her to be responsible and to abstain from sex outside of the confines of marriage. And, under your view of atheism, there is no such thing as human rights, so you might want to get that straightened out. You are whole argument falls apart if you are an atheist.

[srikargottipati]

@BalladoftheWindfish LOL. It is the stupid religion that says not to have save sex by not using contraceptives. Having sex with consent is a human right, but if you don't want to get pregnant, its a human right to use a contraceptive. Funny, how human rights elude religions people like you. A woman has complete right and control over her body, and she can choose if she wants to get aborted or not. Religion obscures the truth, as it has for you. Truth being she has to suffer, as she is now.