Aphex Twin and Mark Morgan in comparison

This video demonstrates similarities between the music of Mark Morgan and braindance guru Aphex Twin (Richard D. James).

26.07.09 - It has come to my attention that Mark Morgan himself is very unpleased by the musical comparisons displayed here and he has sent me several private messages requesting me to remove the video from YouTube. He argued that the video gives the wrong perception of his work but I rejected his request because I disagreed with his views. So please keep this in mind when watching and commenting.

Category:

Music

Tags:

• video
• game
• aphex
• twin
• mark
• morgan
• fallout
• interplay
• selected
• ambient
• works
• volume
• II
• afx
• richard
• david
• james

[CavemanZX]

"So please keep this in mind when watching and commenting." So, keep in mind that you're an asshole? You're using a song that was made in 2003, which in itself is a remix to discredit him? Do you not see anything wrong with that? You then openly admit that your pushing it on several parts but yet still don't, oh I don't know, redo the video but with those parts removed to give a less biased presentation?

As someone who is critical of Morgan (the Stand By Me rip off), to me this is tripe.

[McYaballow]

@CavemanZX again, someone who is making the false assertion that the video is explicitly implying that either one ripped off the other one. the video is to show similarities between the two whether or not they were created independently or not - period. if you don't agree then that is simply your own problem; and honestly I don't really give enough of a shit about the issue to give a damn about redoing the video.

[VishnuZutaten]

CHERRYPICKING

also you forgot to compare "Desert Wind" with (CD Only Track #1) - Analogue Bubblebath 3 :P

but as I say it's all just

CHERRYPICKING

FO1 OST is at least 40min long and we have like 3 themes and few samples :P

[McYaballow]

@VishnuZutaten Well considering that couple of the Fallout OST tracks were ENTIRELY ripped off from Aphex Twin and Morgan gets the credit for the work, I don't think it's cherrypicking. But yea, perhaps the last tracks in the comparison were pushing it a bit. As for the desert wind, I din't forget it. I just though that was really stretching it since the only similarity was a background sample. in the other tracks displayed here, there were actully similarities in rhythms and melodies.

[Snuskigaste]

@McYaballow So? Is it the music or which artist made what we should be focusing on?

[McYaballow]

@Snuskigaste That's entirely up to you.

[yellowredxx]

OMG! This is like that thing Dimmu Borgir did to Tim Wright. Or Zombie Nation to David Whittaker. Or Hardy Hard to Tor Bernhard Gausen. Or...

[PsycCentauri]

Still, mark Morgan did a great job. It fit fallout perfectly.

[perplexedmoth]

It's perfectly legit and more so encouraged as part of being a convention in some electronic music. If you still think it's not right somehow, that's due to lack of your ability to comprehend post-modernism, as opposed to the old world ideals.

[FuriousRoellinghoff]

@CavemanZX I don't know the story with Morgan (would love to know if he had permission, if James got any compensation), but the Aphex Twin remix of "Journey" came out in 1995 on a Gentle People single, and the rest, and several other songs not mentioned here, appears to have been "borrowed" from Selected Ambient Works Volume II.

[maromo1]

Uhm, people doing similar stuff in music, styles, weird. To be honest I have found the earlier work of Mark Morgan to be influencied by that kind of industrial-like sounds, aphex-twin is a master of that, and the guys that were going to do the Planescape Torment's soundtrack used that kind of audio too, It was very common in those years, I don't see the problem, neither the offense taken.

[rkplblenny]

Morgan interview on the subject: "When Interplay was thinking of using me for the game, they sent over some music that they liked and wanted me to do something similar as a demo. The CD they sent me had no titles or artists’ names, just a few pieces of unidentified music. I gave Interplay what they wanted and I think they must have used some of my demo in the final game. At the time, I wasn’t familiar with the work of Aphex Twin. To me, it was just my interpretation of what Interplay asked for."

[rkplblenny]

You don't create electronic music, do you? You realize that in the late 90s, a lot of the same samples were used over and over due to limited availability of sample packs, right? And that there is no such thing as an original melody anymore, as everything has been done; we only have so many notes! The only example that seems similar to me here is Moribund World and Windowsill, but you only show a small portion of the track. When listened to in full, the similarities become less distinct.

[Sphereal]

Not by a mile.

[fsol13]

Interesting comparison, thanks

[KingSpirit111]

So Aphex twin is an inspiration, what else is new?

[HeyAWoodElf]

Aphex Twin's songs were sampled in Fallout 1. It's on wiki.

[Mindshape]

@McYaballow Hey, you know what they say... mimicry is the best form of flattery.