"Jacob Have I Loved; Esau Have I Hated..." (John Calvin)

Commentary by John Calvin on Romans 9:10-13.

And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calls;) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

(Rom 9:10-13)

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[patriotsfan137]

@mallywon are you kidding me the begining of the chapter tells us that paul is talking about salvation as far as esau not serving jacob you dont know that it may have happened later on otherwise the bible its contradicting as far as 2 nations that is not the context for the use of this verse in this chapter he is talking about individuals not nations you need to read the chapter not listen to other people give you thos ideas

[foreverinchrist1]

@bigkevcxza Scipture tells us that, they had done no evil or good. God's choice was based solely on His election in order that what he deceed would come to pass (Ro.9:11). To you it may seem that what Essau did was not ordain by God, but Essau's own doing. That was not the case.

[foreverinchrist1]

@bigkevcxza Did God choose Jacob over Essau before they were even born?

[DYLAN102001]

I think that calvinism is biblicaly false teaching that leading many people to hell because it makes them think that GOD doesn't choose them and as a result, it

would cause them to commit suicide, it would cause me to commit suicide if I

believed in GOD and thought

[bigkevcxza]

Esau sold his birthright for food thats the main reason why God hated Esau, plus God hated Esau from before he was born

[Winter412]

very confusion, shalom; not valid? this is not bibical!

[patriledesma]

@Pormilous Regarding Luke 13:34, I'm not completely sure but we should take into account that Jesus is speaking in his state of humilliation as man. His all-knowing capacity is somehow different from when he is in glory. Jesus said that only the Father knows when the end would come... Doesn't he know it too? (Mark 13:32). This is just a suggestion but I'm not sure :)

[chocohercules]

@FLpolo Not much people know this?

[JonahAickmanLove]

This was very interesting.

I actually clicked this video thinking it was about Katherine Paterson's book, "Jacob Have I Loved."

LOLz, guess I was wrong!

[mallywon]

He was talking about 2 Nation's if you go back to what Paul is quoting in Roman's 9/ Genesis. If you read your bible you'd see that Esau never served Isaac. Then if he was talking of 2 individuals Jacob falsely prophesied. Not to mention Paul is refering to calling and not salvation. Salvation is not the context, or the subject of Romans... You guys put more emphasis on John Calvin than on Jesus.