In 1950 Methods and classification was adapted and transfer to Olympic Free Style to dominate in Olympics, and in 1960-1970 to Judo for same reason – Olympics. If BJJ be came part of Olympics, it would use identical “Training Methods” and “Technical classification” as Sambo and Judo.
“Training Methods” and “Technical classification” developed in USSR for Sambo not by Oschepkov, and almost identical for any kind wrestling specially for Judo, what was part of Sambo Federation in USSR till 1980th.
@NZSambo; Russian Sambo system (from Samooborona Bez Oruzhiya ‘self-defence without weapons’, circa 1920 A.D.), of which the main founder Oshchepkov was executed on the orders of Stalin in 1937 A.D. on trumped up charges of being a Japanese spy, probably based on the fact he spent three years in Japan studying Judo under Kano.
Most USSR nations (Georgia, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Uzbeks, Kazahs etc. have own wrestling tradition older then Jujitsu) and it have no thing to do with Jujutsu. Same as Mongolian good at Sambo and free style and Judo, for there is Mongolian wrestling (what is more simpler to Sambo).
Same as Korean good at Judo and Free Style thanks to Ssierum.
@NZSambo Sambo's throws and groundwork came from Judo/Aikido. Judo/Aikido were several forms of Japanese Ju-Jitsu that were dissassembled for there best moves. Performing in a Kata competition is incredibly difficult because your technique must be perfect. Kata Judo competitions are usually competed by older Judo players who are too old to compete in normal Judo competition. Aikido is for self defense only. A Sambo/Judo/BJJ guy would probaly kick their ass. But once again its for defense.
@NZD99 "distingvige" "form brain" "not surprise". Again, stop attempting to speak english, you're failing miserably. I actually do shotokan karate, i have for nearly 8 years, i'm willing to bet i know more about "combat" then some punk talking about how bad gays getting married is. I'm however ALSO aware that there are subtle nuances that are to be learned from things such as this video, too bad you're too closed minded to understand that. You should quit while you're only slightly behind.
In 1950 Methods and classification was adapted and transfer to Olympic Free Style to dominate in Olympics, and in 1960-1970 to Judo for same reason – Olympics. If BJJ be came part of Olympics, it would use identical “Training Methods” and “Technical classification” as Sambo and Judo.
NZSambo 1 year ago
“Training Methods” and “Technical classification” developed in USSR for Sambo not by Oschepkov, and almost identical for any kind wrestling specially for Judo, what was part of Sambo Federation in USSR till 1980th.
NZSambo 1 year ago
@sirupate Terminology you use are inaccurate, deceptive and hazy.
1. Oschepkov not sambo “founder”. It incorrect word to use. He “pioneer” yes. Founder – not.
2. Sambo is not “system”. Sport Sambo is “rules of wrestling engagement”. Combat Sambo is “full contact Fighting rules of engagement”.
3. There are methods of training and classification. But it never was refer as “system” or called as “System”, for it not correct terminology.
NZSambo 1 year ago
@NZSambo; Russian Sambo system (from Samooborona Bez Oruzhiya ‘self-defence without weapons’, circa 1920 A.D.), of which the main founder Oshchepkov was executed on the orders of Stalin in 1937 A.D. on trumped up charges of being a Japanese spy, probably based on the fact he spent three years in Japan studying Judo under Kano.
sirupate 1 year ago
@daridp 3. Kata – what are promoted by Japanese – full of bushtit rubbish.
biomechanical katas are wrong and not combat related.
It is developing wrong perception and develop incorrect skill, same as Aikido.
We use lot of drilling combination , and you may call it “kata”, but it is way deferent from bulshit one which promoted by kodokan etc.
NZSambo 1 year ago
@daridp
2. You say about sambo – is rubbish.
Most USSR nations (Georgia, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Uzbeks, Kazahs etc. have own wrestling tradition older then Jujitsu) and it have no thing to do with Jujutsu. Same as Mongolian good at Sambo and free style and Judo, for there is Mongolian wrestling (what is more simpler to Sambo).
Same as Korean good at Judo and Free Style thanks to Ssierum.
NZSambo 1 year ago
@daridp 1. Japanese came from China.
So them are no thing more then China migrants.
Aikido is full of bushtit rubbish, not good for any thing at all. ….and it is younger then Sambo any way, and it no comparable what so ever.
NZSambo 1 year ago
@NZSambo Sambo's throws and groundwork came from Judo/Aikido. Judo/Aikido were several forms of Japanese Ju-Jitsu that were dissassembled for there best moves. Performing in a Kata competition is incredibly difficult because your technique must be perfect. Kata Judo competitions are usually competed by older Judo players who are too old to compete in normal Judo competition. Aikido is for self defense only. A Sambo/Judo/BJJ guy would probaly kick their ass. But once again its for defense.
daridp 1 year ago
@NZD99 "distingvige" "form brain" "not surprise". Again, stop attempting to speak english, you're failing miserably. I actually do shotokan karate, i have for nearly 8 years, i'm willing to bet i know more about "combat" then some punk talking about how bad gays getting married is. I'm however ALSO aware that there are subtle nuances that are to be learned from things such as this video, too bad you're too closed minded to understand that. You should quit while you're only slightly behind.
bloodriotiori 1 year ago
@DrGreenThumbs1 because they idiots and combat incompetent.
NZD99 1 year ago