Part II Operation Rescue in Wichita Kansas

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[voice4choiceless]

Your title says "Operation Rescue in Wichita Kansas" yet the Planned Parenthood abortion clinic shown from 0:16 to 1:03 isn't in Wichita.

Your text at 1:14 says "Dr Tiller has NEVER been convicted or sanctioned by any Medical Board". Wrong! Tiller was disciplined by the Kansas Board of Healing Arts (BOHA) in 1984 for abuse of alcohol and the powerful painkiller Demerol. It's in his medical file which is open record. (BOHA License # 04-14025).

Stuart

[iskiowns]

Stuart, you win, you got your way, now go preach to someone else........

As for your comment, I'd drink alcohol if I had to deal your intelligence on a daily basis too........

[groanmaggot3]

Don't like abortion- don't have one.

How many other rights do you fuckers want to take away????

[FoxmanPhD]

I'm extremely Liberal on everything except for Abortion where I'm a moderate, and Gun Control where I'm a moderate. I'm planning on voting for Nader in November. I don't agree with Nader on everything, but I think he's the only one who will stand up to the corporate power structure, the Military-Industrial complex, and the Isreali Lobby. Who are you leaning toward in November?

[iskiowns]

A healthy debate is good, I concur. I've sat here for the last 40 minutes and wondered, "what about the viable Fetus's individual freedom". That was a good one Doc, kudo's....I imagine I could think about that for eternity and still have the same answer though....glad I'm not female. So now you have to share something with me.... Conservative or Liberal? You're in between on this argument, so I'm curious.

[FoxmanPhD]

I don't think you're a chicken shit, we're having a lively debate, it's healthy for Democracy for people to talk about this stuff instead of shout at eachother. I'm glad I'll never half to make that decision. But if I was dictator and my position on Abortion was put in place, if I became pregnent I would have 5 months at the very least to have an Abortion. But, Aborting a completely viable Fetus at say 8 months seems like a horrific waste to me.

[iskiowns]

Oh, your last question is the one we've been dancing around for awhile now, I was wondering when you'd get to it. You say Doctor's get to make that decision. Okay, I can give you that. You may think I'm a chicken shit, but being a male, I never have to make that choice. However, my libertarian views do put me in a quandary with your last question....Not sure to be honest. I guess it's safe to say I'm glad I'll never have to face that predictment personally. You?

[FoxmanPhD]

1. Doctors, 2. OK, if you are a PURE Libertarian, then I can't argue against you because you are idologicaly consistent. You must agree that no one should tell Businesses they can't fire workers trying to unionize? Do you have no empathy whatesoever for a viable Fetus that can be kept alive? Why is killing it necessary? I know most Fetus's aren't viable at Abortion, and I'm not arguing for a complete ban on abortion. Also, what about a viable Fetus's individual freedom?

[iskiowns]

1. Then who makes that determination? 2. Whenever in doubt on anything in this world, I always refrain back to two words...."individual freedom". You can call it individuality, or saving someone's life, but when it comes to an abortion, until you, yourself (male) can have an abortion, you subject yourself mute. Anybody can commit suicide and use heroin, therefore putting that debate to rest. As for your question, most fetus's in this country are not viable at abortion.

[FoxmanPhD]

1. But there is a definite viability point, although it's not always determinable. 2. Men CAN tell women what to do with their bodies (and vice versa). No one has absolute control over their own body. If I find someone about to commit suicide or inject Heroin, I have every right to stop them. If the Fetus can be saved, and the mother does not want it anymore, why must it be killed?