Dusan Holy - Bach: Partita G Major (1/3)

After some time, I added some new video(s)..
It's Johann Sebastian Bach - Partita no.5 in G-Major BWV 829..

My "one take" record.. Hope you'll enjoy..

- First (let me) warm up with Praembulum, and than we dance Allemande and Corrente (Courent)

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[Hasoginy]

very nice! just wondering...for the score, which edition or publisher you used?

[dusanholy]

@Hasoginy - Henle Verlag Urtext - no lines, no dynamics, only notes... Like Bach wrote...

[RemovdSande11]

hey man, great playing ! I like how you just sit there with your legs crossed haha, respect. Where did you record ?

[dusanholy]

@RemovdSande11 Hey Remo!! It's Utrechtse Conservatoire - of course.. The yellow building, K.207..

[janjohandealgenman]

@Starwalker6978

I don't think we are going to come to an agreement. I still don't fully understand why playing a entire partita without pedal could not (a) be more beautiful (subjective) and most importantly (b) be a concious choice in order to achieve a certain feeling of the piece. Bad taste doesn't exist in absolute form since taste by very definition is a subjective term.

[Starwalker6978]

@janjohandealgenman I never said always using pedal, but on the right places... every passage has to be judged individually. To play just a whole movement of a partita, not to say a whole partita without pedal shows lack of knowledge. Yes, where to use pedal and where not is partial taste and partial style and knowledge about the music and feeling for the piano. There's good taste and bad taste... This performance is bad taste.

[janjohandealgenman]

@Starwalker6978

I still don't get why you feel like pedal will ALWAYS enhance bach? It's like saying black and white pictures are by definition inferior to color pictures when they can be much more powerfull because they don't detract from the object of the photo, same goes for music. Let me stress that I don't think playing bach with pedal can't sound great, I listen to Ivo Janssen's rendition of the french suites and he uses a lot of sustain. My conclusion is that it's a 100% matter of taste.

[Starwalker6978]

@janjohandealgenman He also used pedal in Bach in his early days. Listen and watch for example to him in his early twenties in Bach's d-minor concerto. Gould experimented a lot... It is in fact easier to play Bach without pedal, because if you use pedal, you need to use intelligence to judge where to use it and how much. Pianists who don't know how to use the pedal avoid using it with the excuse that the harpsichord didn't have pedal eighter, but that is a completely different instrument.

[janjohandealgenman]

@Starwalker6978

You have some points about using a piano to it's full capabilities in order make the best sound possible and gould did use sustain in later recordings. However this is one side of the story, the other side is that "the best sound possible" could also mean a dry and clean tone and that gould had different opinions in different stages of his life. I am giving you a chance now to respond in a civilized way to adress these points specifically. Any aggression and i'm out...

[Starwalker6978]

@janjohandealgenman Haha!! Documented proof... if you get stuck to your book, you indeed waist your time. Listen to the playing, that is real documented proof, as the playing doesn't lie. I read books and interviews too, but I read them with caution. A last chance; listen to Gould's last recording of the Goldberg variations for example, and LOOK to the pedal (I doubt you have an ear for pedal) and you'll SEE he uses pedal in Bach not just for legato, but for coloring as well!!

[janjohandealgenman]

@Starwalker6978

So let me get this straight, I have documented proof of glenn gould himself (!) explicitly confirming my claim and your retort is: 'I don't care for interviews' . wow, can't believe I just wasted my time on you... bye bye now

[Starwalker6978]

@janjohandealgenman I don't care for interviews... the facts are in the recordings.

Likewise, I have no interest in continuing this discussion.

[janjohandealgenman]

@Starwalker6978

@Starwalker6978

>From a Tim Page Interview:

"GG Well, you know, there are certain personal taboos, especially in playing

Bach, that I almost never violate.

TP Well, I know one of them, for sure: you never use the sustaining pedal.

GG That's right."

As for your little ad hominem remark, I think you just disqualified yourself by resorting to that. I am not continuing this discussion with someone who can't be civil.

[Starwalker6978]

@janjohandealgenman Than you are very wrong. Glenn Gould uses a lot of pedal when playing Bach! Listen! - and if you are not capable to do so and are merely impressed by him playing with crossed legs, then watch carefully to see that he uses the other foot on the pedal. You better stick to your guitar is my advise.