Hardfire trailer THE LOOSE CHANGE DEBATE

In this trailer, Dylan Avery and Ronald Wieck discuss the shortcomings of the Loose Change movies. See the two Hardfire programs in which Jason Bermas and Dylan debate Mark Roberts about the events of 9-11 at http://tinyurl.com/2crro5 and http://tinyurl.com/ypvauw

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News & Politics

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• dylan
• avery
• bermas
• roberts
• wieck
• 9-11
• 9/11
• WTC
• world
• trade
• center
• conspiracy
• oklahoma

[terrymanning1]

Loose Change debunks Loose Change!!

Conclusive proof that they lied, distorted & misquoted.

If you still believe in Avery & Bermas after seeing this debate you need your head seeing to. They got destroyed.

[FK777FK]

Loose change final cut watch contains NO errors

[TheLockon00]

@VickyRamosLovesMJ See, you usage contradicts the notion of what a conspiracy is. Conspiracies are carried out privately (as the alleged 911 one was) and after a conspiracy is conducted and its subsequent events carried out, you can't change it. It's a past event. The conspiracy to kill Lincoln or bomb the WTC aren't still happening. They happened and are over and they plotting and carrying out of said acts occured before any revaltions did. Hence they were conspiracies and proof won't change it

[TheLockon00]

@VickyRamosLovesMJ Hmm, interesting. Either you use the word conspiracy in a way that virtually no one else does whom learned English as a first language or you made a stupid comment on accident (give ya a little benefit of the doubt) and then when someone called you on it you made a shitty attempt at a semantics argument to defend yourself. My moneys on the latter and I'll explain why. Your analysis of the 911 conspiracy or any other conspiracy is very flawed....

[VickyRamosLovesMJ]

@TheLockon00 exactly, you learn fast xP lol

[TheLockon00]

@VickyRamosLovesMJ Lame defense, dude. Just because a conspiracy/plot/secret or whathaveyou is uncovered, doesn't stop it from being an act of of conspiring among conspirators. You know what it becomes after you demonstrate it to be true (which you truthers haven't done, btw)? An uncovered conspiracy. I suppose the Anjala conpiracy, the Pazzi conspiracy, and the conspiracy to assassinate Lincoln aren't conspiracies because they've been revealed in history?

[VickyRamosLovesMJ]

@TheLockon00 actually by definition a "conspiracy" is a SECRET plan a group has to do something (most likely unlawful and harmful). *Secret being the key word in this definition, would mean that it's UNKNOWN... Idk about you, but if you don't know something you can't prove something.

Which is why I've personally concluded that a "conspiracy" cannot be proven, if it is TRULY a conspiracy by definition.

But you're free to interpret it however you please :]

[TheLockon00]

@FK777FK OMFG that is the DUMBEST comment I've read in recent memory and I have read some fucking doozies. Of course they are conspiracies if you can prove them. That's what you're fucking proving! That they are conspiracies! My god man.

[bogogf]

So does this fuckwad actually wear glasses because he has an eyesight problem, or is he trying to look intelligent ? It's not really working.

[ripley450]

I'll kick this hairlips teeth in if I EVER SEE his mug on the street

[AmericasFan]

Why? Cause everything they say is proven to be false. keep depending on theses idiots along with Alex Jones which is the biggest idiot of them all. He bashes the same government that funds his cable access show. Talk about a hypocrite.

[ihatebobsaget1989]

nor would they be called theories and be denied by top experts if they were proven.