Pig Farm Employee Tells All
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@AntiSpeciesistWorld -Give me scientific citations about alleged environmental and medical effects. Livestock producers in high density operations MUST comply to federal, state and community laws that regulate the disposition of waste. Living creatures defecate, and I think we can all agree that ANY feces stinks. Does it really matter if the feces of 1000 pigs is created on 20 acres or 200? 1000 pigs produce the same amount of feces regardless. Difference is how long it takes to scoop it all up.
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@AntiSpeciesistWorld Secondly, swine are NOT kept in farrowing crates all their lives. ONLY when preparing to farrow, aka give birth. Feeder pigs, breeding boars, and sows that are not about to farrow live in the general population, although slightly segregated by nutritional needs. See? Unless you've BEEN there, all you can do is regurgitate what you've been told.
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@AntiSpeciesistWorld - First of all, animals are NOT people. They do NOT have the emotions that humans do. They unconcerned with acquisition of wealth, future, or 'personal growth'. They get adequate food, water, and housing, they are content. They don't sit and ponder the meaning of the world. The meeting of basic needs is all they ever aspire to. Not having to fight for food, nor survival, as well as freedom from parasites and disease makes them better off than wild animals.
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@songbrook1 I'm not asking for farming to end altogether, I just don't think factory farming can be justified. Also considering the environmental effects and also the other effects it causes to humans in terms of increasing the chances of making viruses more immune to medicine and all the growth hormones that people consume in their meat.
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@songbrook1 Just cause they exist doesn't make it a good thing, they'd probably suffer less without living in the first place. I'd rather not be born than be born into a life were I'm locked away into a crate for my whole life. How can a pig find happiness in a gestation crate? Mammals instinctively want to be free and run around, it's what mammals have evolved to do. We all know that horrible feeling we get from a whole day indoors, imagine having it for a lifetime.
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@AntiSpeciesistWorld No 'perhaps'. Medical fact. I've been in veterinary medical technology AND animal sheltering for 25+ years. Children get abused. Shall we stop having them? *I* have spent YEARS seeing HUNDREDS of farms. Very, VERY few abuse or neglect cases. A good many of the videos you are pushing are faked by AR extremists to spread hate and fear. And they would NOT live longer in the wild. If not for us, they'd not exist at ALL. Neither would we without them.
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@songbrook1 Well I wasn't referring to cows, but on the pig thing, perhaps that is true. Nevertheless look at the facts, there's been many cases of animal abuses, many pictures, videos, investigations, exc. whether your correct on that or not, abuse does go on. It wouldn't make any sense but it happens. Also things like castration, tail-cutting, exc. definitely go on.
And my second point still stands that they live longer in the wild and more freely.
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@AntiSpeciesistWorld - Actually, yes, they DO fail to thrive if they are not properly cared for. Scientific studies have proven that cows who have stress from external parasites do not produce milk in the same quantities as unaffected cows. Swine do not thrive when they are stressed by competition for food and other resources, thus they are not profitable for the farmer.
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@sethamiser Well you have to analyse both sides of the story. Would a pig be happier in the wild or locked away in a gestation crate all there life? It doesn't matter if they don't know any better, been locked away without much room to move is depressing & extremely boring to any mammal (at least).
Also getting food and staying alive isn't the key to happiness. Just cause they're not hungry, doesn't mean they're life is good. Also most pigs live longer in the wild in anyway's.
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@songbrook1 Why would a depressed animal mean less profit? If an animal is miserable that doesn't change the fact that the meat is there, pigs don't grow less based on how they feel.
That's right, play happy music in the background to make us think that the pigs don't mind spending their entire lives in a stall where they can't turn around.
haal0702 1 year ago 18
Animals who are uncomfortable or discontent, let alone abused, do NOT produce as well as animals that are clean, well-cared for, and kept mentally balanced. WHY would farmers treat their animals in a way that REDUCES their animals' production, which directly reduces their profit? That's right, they wouldn't! These hogs are safe and content. They produce well and the farmers profit. No way to argue this logic. Animal rights lies aren't logical.
songbrook1 3 weeks ago 4