Public sector unions and "collective bargaining rights"

Major Episodes in American Labor History
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlX-QORf1KY
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YehIo_Cp3k8

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[Slipknotyk06]

A recent University of Arkansas study shows that only 28% of the cost of employing a teacher is evident in their roughly $56,000 salary. 72% of the cost is evident in the cost of benefits, including lifetime pensions and health mentioned in your other video.

This IS a budget battle, and whoever states otherwise is either dishonest or ignorant. With this kind of statistic, how can one even argue that this is a battle over the right to unionize?

[TheLegalImmigrant05]

@Slipknotyk06 Sure. Like I said, I have no problem with people organizing into groups. I have a problem with unions using government-granted monopoly privilege to exclude non-unionized workers from the market.

[honkyxadonis]

@TheLegalImmigrant05 no not exactly, i think i said something similar on one of your other videos, day to day we have things like child benefit and income support which i dont agree with at all, but something like an unexpected illness requiring surgery or long treatment, or an injury keeping someone from working, if the nhs and institutions like it didnt exist for ppl when things like that happened it would ruin them. health insurance in the uk is a luxury for the upper m/c.

[TheLegalImmigrant05]

@honkyxadonis So in your mind, a lot of working class people are really only surviving because other people are being robbed to prop them up? That they are not productive enough in their lives to sustain themselves?

[honkyxadonis]

@TheLegalImmigrant05 i have a hard time imagining a society with zero state intervention, even though i rarely disagree with your, and indeed other libertarian, arguments. i live in the uk and it just seems like no matter what argument you come up with, pulling intervention is pulling the rug and alot of working class people will hit the floor, really with little hope of righting themselves.

[TheLegalImmigrant05]

@honkyxadonis Same as my solution to state anything: get the state out. It's not like there was no education in this country before Dept. of Ed

[honkyxadonis]

@TheLegalImmigrant05 what would your alternative to state education be?

[Slipknotyk06]

@TheLegalImmigrant05 - I'm right there with ya. I also have the religious opposition to Public sector unions bankrupting individual states through this monopoly privilege.

[ace8842]

All the bankrupt states, like Illinois, New York, California, and New Jersey, are forced union states. Meanwhile, the most fiscally sound states are all right to work states. For those that insist union states are better for education, Florida is rated 3rd, Texas 8th, and Kansas 7th, and these are all right to work states. Public sector unions are a monopoly and can go on strike whenever they want. They prevent competition and create a corrupt relationship with union bosses/politicians.

[TheLegalImmigrant05]

@qtutoringhelps I agree 100%