Islam and Violence

OK. I forgot the mimetic theory part. The theory states that as social creatures, humans influence one another in powerful ways. We mediate reality to one another, and we start living out that "reality." In other words, we project images upon one another, and we begin to live out those images. The more we mediate a "violent reality" reality, or project violence upon Muslims and say Islam is inherently violent the more many Muslims will act out that image of violence. When we do this, we have an enemy of our own making.

For Jesus and the Day of Judgement in Islam, see 4:159.

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[SharikTheReal]

@sesshy34 And believe me, that's all you've got to know. I'm telling that because I'm actually studying Quran. And... that's no good. I've studied Christianity also, but not judaism yet. I follow Vedic teachings personnaly. But Islam is more alarming than anything else, what we see in the world of today proves it.

[raventelevision]

@SharikTheReal This accusation confuses me. At their best, when Muslims claim that "There is no god but Allah" they are claiming that they are not Allah, their imam is not Allah. What they claim is that only Allah is the Truth. They are not the Truth; their understanding of the Qur'an is not the Truth. Allah is the Truth. As with adherents of all religious traditions, there are Muslims who confuse themselves with God, but they contradict the Islamic truth that "There is no god but Allah."

[RAVEYedits]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHA islam.

[sesshy34]

To be honest, I understand everything i need to know about Islam with just one sentence that every Muslim says - "There is no other God but Allah".

That arrogant sentence right there is enough to tell me Islam is a Religion that claims to be Superior and insulting other Religions and their teachings and Gods by claiming them wrong.

Also, Muhammad destroyed the Idols at Mecca, enough proof for me to see how tolerant Islam is about other beliefs and Ideas...

[raventelevision]

@geodesicks Yes. Archaic religion used sacrifice as a way to conrol violence. Focus a little bit of violence onto a perons or animal and that will bring temporary peace. The Judeo-Christian tradition challenges the idea of a sacrifice of violence and says we must find another way. This is seen ultimately in Jesus, who invites us into communities based not on the reconciliation that comes from violence, but the only true reconciliation that comes from love.

[geodesicks]

@raventelevision : The biggest philanthropists in the world today are not religious. Morality is not reasoned. It has evolved by natural selection and the steps in its evolution can be traced in animals that live under social conditions like territorial fishes to chimpanzees and bonobos. They don't come from religion, they are ENCODED in religions for future generations to pick them up quickly without having to relive the evolutionary pressures that got us to those principles.

[geodesicks]

@raventelevision : They provide comfort by giving one a very clear picture of where one fits into the world, inaccurate as it may be, without one having had to figure this out for oneself. Once you start to yank the underpinnings of religion from under the feet of a religious but intelligent person, you'll notice a discomfort bordering on despair set in. The fact that you can identify compassion, mercy and charity as good stuff in religion means you have a moral compass external to it.

[raventelevision]

@geodesicks Agreed. But Judaism, Christianity, and Islam don't provide much comfort. They look at the way the world is, and push us to behave in a more compassionate and merciful manner. They each encourage the rich to care for the poor, the vulnerable, and the outcasts of society. "Reason" alone might have us follow another path - a social survival of the fittest. But these religions say we must care for our fellow human beings. That to me is evidence something transcendent is motivating them.

[geodesicks]

@raventelevision : To suggest that one may believe in something because it helps us live better or feel comforted as a society and not because there is evidence for it seems a fundamental treachery to intellectual integrity. If there's no sufficient evidence for it we cannot believe it. If there is, we should. And if the evidence is grainy, we should suspend judgement. But we cannot say "I believe the sky is pink (or insert dogma here) because it makes me live better."

[raventelevision]

@geodesicks I would agree with Nietzsche who postulated that when we kill God we become gods unto ourselves. When that happens, we take our own individual or communal desires over and against others. If we believe the ultimate source of the universe is aMerciful and Compassionate God, we hopefully will begin to act more mercifully and compassionately. I won't get into an match of accusations of who is being more "childish", but I do hope that we both might become more merciful and compassionate.