Mike Gravel on the Real ID Act (National ID Card)

This is from a Q&A forum with Mike Gravel in Tampa, FL on 9/8/2007. Mike Gravel was asked about his stance on the Real ID Act (the national ID card). His response may surprise you. All video credits go to zyvek (youtube user name) at shadowvote.org.

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[SilentPhish]

oldhacks... IT IS GOING TO HAVE A TRACKING CHIP IN IT (RFID)... GO READ THE ACT BEFORE YOU CLAIM THAT IT IS NOT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE!

[coffeeintheface]

You've got to be shitting me. I would've thought of all people that Gravel would have been adamantly against it. He just singlehandedly lost my vote.

[spnkthru]

I really like Gravel

but this I can't tolerate. he's basically saying rollover and take it....we have a police state so accept it, we already have a realID so why not make it better...that just bothers me.

[MELISSA84008]

..this old man is a buffoon...

[higherdimensionstrav]

Who was the old fart? What an idot. When the young, able-bodied Jewish men were being escorted to the concentration camps, if they had fought from where they were, they wouldn't have sufferered as long, either they would have been shot at once or perhaps kicked all the guards asses! Give me liberty or give me death!

[oldhacks]

I know! thats why this real ID act is such a non-issue. they're already tracking you

[knighthawk2277]

"its not a major issue. thats what Mike was saying. Who cares about the id card, They already got us in how we travel (cars, oil, gas, highways) and how we live (mortgage, taxes, necessities) don't let minor issues get in the way of the big picture. As long as they don't have tracking devices in them. then I'm fine with it."

....If you have a cellphone they can track you almost anywhere you go as long as you have it turned on...

[oldhacks]

yea. maybe we should've left old people to die in poverty once they became too old to work. maybe we should have left child labor in place. maybe we should have left mentally and physically impaired people on the streets. maybe we should've allowed families to die homeless. maybe we should have never have implemented the greatest security we have against illegal immigrants. maybe we never should have became a nation.

[xxmonickkkkaxx]

Maybe we should have never had a social security number. It isn't a coincidence that all of these things came about after the Federal Reserve Act and Income Tax. This is centralizing power, its just common sense.

[toomuchmonky]

All of these power _hoes are in on this aren't they?

[xtcx2e]

Damn, and i really liked Gravel. Im lost on how he could support this being a liberaterian.

[codematrix]

You guys don't get it. If this goes through, it will be required that all citizens must carry an Real ID card. In the begining it may seem innocent. But after everyone has one, say 5 to 10 years from now, it will be mandatory. And if you don't have it on you when they stop you for speeding or something, you can be labled an enemy combatant and place in jail without legal representation. It's all part of a bigger plan to control you. WAKE UP sheeple!!

[taffboy72]

Gavel doesnt get it. Disappointing.