Su-27 Ram-K
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@TankNutJohn89 Just because western Allies deployed their shit shermans so late against panthers and tigers :)
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@Ouija121085 Mig planes sold as new need frame retrofits? How does that work?
Explin this simple economy.
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@JustineBieberxoxo well if you didnt pay for frame retrofit then you get what you paid for. Simple economy.
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@Ouija121085 Russia sent rusted airframes on a few occasions.
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@JustineBieberxoxo who sent rusted frames? wtf u talking about.
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@Ouija1210 Bad workmanship? Yes.
Sending rusted and rotten airframes to paying customers.
If you can't get that right, it's bad workmanship.
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the camera man seems to be more interested in the engines than the plane :p
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Right on.. a good read you guys
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@TankNutJohn89 And furthermore F22 did lose a simulated duel against chinese made copies of Su27, which by the way only look like Su27 while the preformance of Su27 and chinese copy are massive. Even this diluted Su27 managed in mock up simulaton to defeat F22 by actually attacking and destroying refuling tankerplane and then without even engaging F22 dissapeared, while F22 ran out of fuel and could not continue engagement due to low fuel supply. F22 has a problem with low fuel.
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@TankNutJohn89 The only excercises F22 was ever in were computer simulations and close nit exercises with USAF's own aircraft. Never were they so public. Second if eurofigher or F15 won a duel against F22 it would be the end of USAF as tonnes of inquiries would pour in why "inferior" aircraft managed against 200million dollar stated invincible plane? even if eurofigther or F15 did beat F22 you would never know about it EVER.
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@msthec1 What? bad worksmanship are you crazy? Russian military technolgy is work of art. MIG25-31 is like a statue of david in the plane world. SU27-30-37-47 are all marvels. All the bad rep is called "propaganda" nothing more. Based on morons who have no idea what they are talking about but when the ysee the real thing they shit their pants. Be reminded that indian SU27 beat US F-15 at red flag couple of years ago at score 50-0. US airforce colonel also got canned after this.
Ouija1210 6 months ago 16
@danm981 Yes against planes with 50km radar and R 73 missiles and R 60 missiles. No F-15 had ever fought against real Su 27 like Su 27 SM2 with 400km of radar and R 77, R 37, R 33 missiles. The best US radar is APG 77 with 250km and the best projectile (for now) AIM 120 with (some source claim) 105km. On the other side best russian radar is Irbis E with 400km of range and one of the best projectiles are R77M1 - 160km R 33 - 200km (not sure) , R 37-398km, K100 (possibly 400km) - more than 200km
Putin34000 9 months ago 5