@marklewin8 I dunno, he doesn't seem to be on his way out as far as his physique and his drive. I mean the level of competition has improved vastly at the O in the past few years but he still seems ready to hard charge so I'm thinking we might see a strong year out of him again before he retires. I mean, placing 1 behind a Victor Martinez that looked the same as when he could've/should've won the olympia in '07.... without totally nailing conditioning.... he's still alright i think.
@jonmarcwright one of my favorites of all time..I dunno, Ronnie Rockel, Ben Pulaski, Phil Heath are still improving every year..and I don't like Zack Kahn but he's coming-he's got the mass and physique. Other than that you're right. IF Tony could maintain his X frame and come in at 300 he'd be in the top 3 or so. But do you think his better days are behind him?
@marklewin8 8th last year 9th this year. If he came in with absolute killer conditioning though he'd probably move up a couple of spots. To really dominate he'd probably have to somehow move up to about 310 competition weight with sick conditioning, but he should be able to battle for 4-7 without doing that. He'd crush a ronnie rockel type physique if he nailed his conditioning down like branch, dex, or phil did this year, but he hasn't managed that recently.
@marklewin8 i hear ya. i love his physique. he's worked hard for it over the years, looking at his old stuff getting on stage at 235-240 and he's managed to keep his waist tight but add 60lbs with better conditioning? that's just intense! i'm 6'2, 210 at under 10% bodyfat, want to get up to where i'd be 220 at a competition and x-man is definitely an inspiration for me as a "taller" guy starting out bodybuilding.
Unfortunately I think it is too late for Freeman, but I have been pulling for him in a number of shows, thought he deserved a better placing at 2009 Arnold. The top guys are too young and too structurally gifted (aside from Warren) for Freeman to make a break for the win. Still a top notch athlete and anyone on stage at 290 is fucking awesome in my book, thats beef status!! haha
@marklewin8 I dunno, he doesn't seem to be on his way out as far as his physique and his drive. I mean the level of competition has improved vastly at the O in the past few years but he still seems ready to hard charge so I'm thinking we might see a strong year out of him again before he retires. I mean, placing 1 behind a Victor Martinez that looked the same as when he could've/should've won the olympia in '07.... without totally nailing conditioning.... he's still alright i think.
jonmarcwright 1 year ago
@jonmarcwright one of my favorites of all time..I dunno, Ronnie Rockel, Ben Pulaski, Phil Heath are still improving every year..and I don't like Zack Kahn but he's coming-he's got the mass and physique. Other than that you're right. IF Tony could maintain his X frame and come in at 300 he'd be in the top 3 or so. But do you think his better days are behind him?
marklewin8 1 year ago
@marklewin8 8th last year 9th this year. If he came in with absolute killer conditioning though he'd probably move up a couple of spots. To really dominate he'd probably have to somehow move up to about 310 competition weight with sick conditioning, but he should be able to battle for 4-7 without doing that. He'd crush a ronnie rockel type physique if he nailed his conditioning down like branch, dex, or phil did this year, but he hasn't managed that recently.
jonmarcwright 1 year ago
@jonmarcwright yeah, taller frames seem to demand much more mass than shorter ones.
he looks great at 43. I saw where he placed pretty low at Mr.O?
marklewin8 1 year ago
@marklewin8 i hear ya. i love his physique. he's worked hard for it over the years, looking at his old stuff getting on stage at 235-240 and he's managed to keep his waist tight but add 60lbs with better conditioning? that's just intense! i'm 6'2, 210 at under 10% bodyfat, want to get up to where i'd be 220 at a competition and x-man is definitely an inspiration for me as a "taller" guy starting out bodybuilding.
jonmarcwright 1 year ago
Toney and Flex my all time favorites, no bloated pot bellies like Ronnie, Jay, Kai and Branch.
marklewin8 1 year ago
Unfortunately I think it is too late for Freeman, but I have been pulling for him in a number of shows, thought he deserved a better placing at 2009 Arnold. The top guys are too young and too structurally gifted (aside from Warren) for Freeman to make a break for the win. Still a top notch athlete and anyone on stage at 290 is fucking awesome in my book, thats beef status!! haha
Bsnakes 1 year ago
Great bodybuilder no chance at a Mr o title though .....victor , phil , dexter , have the best structure around... Victor 2010
Towelieeeeeeeeeeeeee 2 years ago
Now that the O seems to have gone back to aesthetics, Toney may a shot.
maxINaus 2 years ago
Toney IS da man! Terrific structure top 2 in my opinion of the current front runners for the "O."
MrNickhtown 2 years ago