Piaggio P180 cokpit experience

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[Dieterdtt]

Can you fly this aircraft with a PPL license?

[emanuele1330]

no...why??

[elmagico1082]

@Dieterdtt Sure you can, if you have a current type rating. What you cannot do with a ppl is flying it within commercial operations.

[MsBellaroma]

the guy on the right is gorgeous

[sirlaps]

@aowen1609 you are right. and actually you dnt need a type rating for this one as long as mgw concerns11.546,8 lb...

as long as you have all your endorsements and log training & flight from an autrhorized instruc., you can fly any airplane in the world with a PPL, you just cant get compensated haha.. Which sucks. lol

[aowen1609]

I don't understand why people think you can't fly this with a private pilots license. All you need is your private, a high performance endorsement, complex endorsement, and maybe a type rating. I guess you would also need a pressurized aircraft endorsement and if you want to fly high, a high altitude endorsement.

[CincoSnare76]

@Dieterdtt You need a CMEL and maybe even a type rating depending on the weight.

[flyinhigher1000]

The piaggio avanti II P180 is a multi-engine turboprop aircraft, and as long as a turboprop is less than 12,500 lb's you do not need a type rating to fly it. The Piaggio's max take off weight is 11,100 pounds. Therefore all you need to fly the Piaggio avanti ii is a PPL and a Multi-Engine rating. Also you are most likely going to fly above 10,000 feet so you will need an instrument rating (although you technically do not need to fly over 10,000 ft). YOu do not need an APTL.

[Coi1221]

@Dieterdtt For passenger jets, you need an ATPL (btw it's PPL not PPL license as PPL stands for Private Pilot License)

[CounterCultureLives]

@400LSPILOT My understanding is that the dynamics have changed over the past couple of years. No?? if you are talking about flying one of these with a PPL-ME, then you are talking about an owner flown plane, which would mean that you'd have to be a HNWI. (High Net Worth individual). I do know that aircraft financing for HNWI's has all but dried up, and that with the devastation to the general aviation economy, insurance companies are increasingly selective about who they will insure. Educate me!

[400LSPILOT]

@CounterCultureLives As I said, all you need is money, you will have no problem insuring any plane, B747 and A380 included on a private pilot license, the premium will be expensive, that's all.

[CounterCultureLives]

@400LSPILOT Obviously, you'll need an ME rating; but without a commercial ticket, you'd have a difficult time finding anyone to insure you.