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jeah well people will die, it doesnt matter lets kill in order to build a better world, the big pay off will come anyway and with our advanced technology its very possible that we wipe us out completely. so whats moral now ? however the nazis failed and killed themselves to show the credibility of this ideoligy. capitalism, communism, fascism etc. all the same, cry me a river babylon
Modern science masquerades as knowledge proper. It is based on "reason" - and a "law of reason" (i.e. logic) which philosophy (i.e. metaphysics) gave to it in the first place. But, having forgotten this and having become over-confident, it now rules everything. But since it has abandoned its origins it is plummeting into an abyss, unwittingly - and dragging the whole world down with it. Science needs to learn where it came from again.
@zarakhast I can not believe you got thumbs up for this statement. I disagree 100%! Science is still jumping into the abyss! Human cloning! Evolution! Atom Smashers that are so huge people are scared it will destroy the Earth or even the universe. Look around Sicence has not changed that much. It's always made noise while both dragging the world down as you say and simultaneously brings the world right back up again. Every year something insane happens in science.
Um, so why don't you agree ? What you say sounds like agreement to me. Which statement of mine are you objecting to ?
My personal objection to science is that it neglects to ask the most fundamental questions and that since these form the basis upon which the rest of knowledge is based, if they are not asked the whole attempt to understand reality fails inevitably.
The first question of metaphysics is stated explicitly at the beginning of Heidegger's Introduction to Metaphysics.
I do not agree with the statement "Modern science masquerades as knowledge proper". It is science that gives us knowledge along with philosophy and metaphysics which gives us the Big questions and in same cases the tools like logic and the scientific method which increses or knowledge at extreme rates. Knowledge is doubling every eight years." Every minute they add 2000 pages to man's scientific knowledge. Meta physics is still apllied and so is philosophy too although logic rules. Good day.
Science doesn't give us knowledge "along with" metaphysics, because science is simply applied metaphysics. But the "meta-" in metaphysics (i.e. the going beyond beings) seems to be considered superfluous in science. But this going beyond (i.e. thinking out into the unthought) is genuine thinking. It's no good to start without genuine metaphysical questioning because you will end up in a very clever tangle and yet get nowhere. I can't help thinking that we agree though, despite your protests.
If science does not give us knowledge what does it give us? The end result of science is knowledge. Like the knowledge that came with the voyager probes which science helped design. Philosophy and meta-physics ask the questions and science answers them. The end result is knowledge, some absolute some theoretical some debatable.
"Nihilation" is a crucial, if not THE crucial "concept" in Heidegger's thinking. In truth it isn't even a concept : we are prompted to experience it, and "experience" here does not mean "sense experience". This is something which lies quite outside the remit and the realm of "science".
If nothing somehow brings itself into being - by its very nature and not just accidentally, then this would be something very fundamental indeed. But would science have access to such a fact, if it were a fact ? No, inasmuch as science is always looking for "evidence" (i.e. proof based on "sense-experience"). "Nothing" is hardly likely to present itself to the senses ...
What about "dread" (Angst) then ? This is not a "sense experience". Neither is "wonder".
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however the nazis failed and killed themselves to show the credibility of this ideoligy. capitalism, communism, fascism etc. all the same, cry me a river babylon
he failed.
My personal objection to science is that it neglects to ask the most fundamental questions and that since these form the basis upon which the rest of knowledge is based, if they are not asked the whole attempt to understand reality fails inevitably.
The first question of metaphysics is stated explicitly at the beginning of Heidegger's Introduction to Metaphysics.
What about "dread" (Angst) then ? This is not a "sense experience". Neither is "wonder".