Planescape Torment trailer 1
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If I recall right that's the cinema you get when you use the symbol of torment
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What is the scene at 0:39? I don't recall it from the game
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I love this game but one thing that always bugged me was this music; whenever a fight broke out I started to think about austrians and intergalactic trophy hunters. Am I the only one?
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@tjhoenecke But everyone has the capacity for anything, whether good or ill. I know I have bits of me that are naturally evil and I can have nasty tendencies, but I try not to act upon or even think about them. See, nature is used in a different light in Torment than what a person desires or thinks. Every human is predisposed towards "every man for himself", but not everyone acts upon it.
TNO in this case said that if you "believe" you can change, then you can. That's really it.
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@CharlettMoon I'm afraid you missed MY point. NO changed his "attitude," perhaps, and made different decisions at different times, but his nature remained the same as ever. Nothing he tried, or could ever try, would change his past, or the fact that the capacity for such behavior still existed in him.
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Srsly, this game still pwns all rpgs including the new "story-based" ones by Bioware. Best rpg game of all time!
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@tjhoenecke I think you're missing the point. Changing nature doesn't necessarily mean changing your outcome. NO DID change his nature. For his original incarnation, it changed because of Regret, and at the end of the game, Current NO decided that it was belief that changed it.
In fact, he changed from his original to his current as well. His original was afraid to go to the Blood War, but Current NO decided that there was nothing he could do and accepted it. There is change everywhere.
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"What can change the nature of a man?" Nothing -- at least, that seems to be the real answer in-game, as ultimately, NO cannot change his nature, and so in the end is doomed no matter what. NO's sins and crimes remain, and nothing can change them, or him -- and so no matter how you play the game, in the end, you will still be damned to this game's "Hell." There is no Gospel in Planescape. ;)
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I read an interview where Avellone said it was *Belief* that can change the nature of a man.
There are several hints throughout the game (Mourn-for-trees, the flashback during the debate with Dolora...) that belief is the most powerful thing in the planes.
If you have great Wisdom, your character figures it out during the final dialogue.
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Time is the right answer, that's what the whole game is based on. The nameless one's nature changed over time, the proof is in all of the different marks he made on the planes over time; each one made by a nameless one with a different nature (alignment).
Aye, a *sequel* would not have been good, but another game set in the Planescape setting written by Avellone would be awesome.
unholyevili 2 years ago 12
Whatever you think can change the nature of a man, can change the nature of a man.
MuscleLuke2 3 years ago 11