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Single Payer: Listen To The Doctors!

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Uploaded by on Jul 28, 2009

What a concept! Listening to the people who work in our broken healthcare system every day and can tell you exactly what needs to be done from a first hand perspective!

HOMEWORK:

MUST READ: Dr. Margaret Flowers calls Obama's healthcare bluff in an open letter:
http://tiny.cc/ZWbJ3

Obama's former doctor on Democracy Now - full interview:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/22/president_obamas_longtime_physician_opp...

More of the Same - Little More than a Placebo:
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/july/more_of_the_same_is_.php

Physicians for a National Health Program:
http://www.pnhp.org/

MUST WATCH AND SHARE: Black Agenda Report Executive Editor Glen Ford tears into Obama's healthcare reform with the unvarnished truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfHbGM4YUkA

Single Payer Action:
http://www.singlepayeraction.org

Contact your reps now to demand single payer:
http://www.peaceteam.net/action/pnum998.php

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  • This is nothing I don't know already. You're right about one thing though. The people are kept ignorant about anything and everything from politics to education, science and healthcare and even religion and the occult. The religious institutions the world over have more wealth than the rest of the world COMBINED. With that kind of money we could literally feed and clothe and house every person on the planet. It's been like this for thousands of years.

  • ...and unless my ears have been deceiving me it sounds like the health care industry lobbyists are trying to turn this whole debacle to their own advantage by sponsoring legislation which will REQUIRE all currently uninsured citizens to purchase health care insurance?

    I guess that's one way of getting us all to shut up about not having health care, eh?

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  • I don't even have health insurance and I don't want this government plan.

  • Good point! The turnip that runs a red light might go to jail, but he can't be forced to get a job and reimburse you for your injuries and expenses. No-fault insurance has always been a scam to benefit the insurance copmpanies and the state governments have been in bed with them for years. The 'right-to-travel' is forfeit. (but, that's another can of worms..)

  • And strangle business? You want free market totally? Do you know what kind of shit can arise from that kind of a system? That means no unions, no civil liberties for workers, government controlled by business due to business have many times more money than government, and the freedom to put whatever the hell they want in to products, no matter how detrimental to your health or the environment.

    Look at the American industrial revolution and see that I'm right.

  • Another thing is the obscene amount of money it takes to get simple procedures, ie: getting a tooth pulled costs roughly 1 grand. Most people can't afford things like that and still have a livelihood. If they have at least some cushion, at least they will still be able to live life without being in debt their entire life.

  • The only reason any of that would happen is due to the government being big the whipping boy of big business right now, but with the insurance companies weakened, it would be very difficult to continue the practices they are perpetrating right now. Right now anyone rich is much more valuable than anyone poor to them. It happens like that now, and changing to single payer sure won't make it any worse.

  • I also work hard for my money and would like to keep more of it, as would everyone else. This is why the majority of Americans (along with the majority of docs, who clearly know what they're talking about) supports universal healthcare. Single payer would save $400b per year by cutting out the massive overhead waste in the current system. You're either too blinded by worthless partisanship to see through the lies, or you're actively pushing them to serve your greed. My guess is it's the latter.

  • Nice job trying to obscure the point, which was clear. Says a lot about the lack of confidence in your own argument. Good luck trying to sue someone who doesn't bother to get auto insurance. Chances are great he has no cash and no other real assets, which puts you on the hook regardless of the right to sue. The "threats of imprisonment and death" are empty propaganda in the pathetic dog and pony show that is the healthcare "debate" in DC, where the vast majority is shilling for the status quo.

  • I don't care how YOU see single payer, I see it as a gun to my neck in the event that I choose to keep the money that I spend a good chunk of my life working hard to earn, instead of giving it to people for whatever reason they happen to whine about. You are using force against people who don't agree with you. Any mugger, or murderer does the same, except he doesn't make it look like he is doing it for a moral principle.

  • I think basic auto insurance is a sound idea, but we're not discussing that are we? I said I don't buy HEALTH insurance.

    Furthermore, if somebody strikes you because he runs a red light, you can sue him. You don't need any special regulations, the Bill of Rights provides us with the right to sue for restitution due to fraud, force, etc.

    Single payers "contribute to a good deal?" lol if it was a good deal there would be no need to back it up with threats of imprisonment or death would there?

  • So you'd be good with being stuck with the tab if, say, some uninsured idiot ran a red light and put you in the hospital for six months? Good for you if you've got that kind of money to piss away. Most don't. Those of us with compassion and common sense don't see single payer as being subjected to coercive force. We see it as everyone contributing to get a good deal. Will some cheat? Sure, but refusing to help all who say they need it because only some are cheaters is morally indefensible.

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