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  • But what if God is the simplest thing in the universe?

  • the rule that everything had to have been created is a scientific law. God exists outside of science and the law does not apply to him, he is infinite and omnipotent. the universe had to have come from something without a beginning because if God had a creator and a beginning his creator would have a creator who had a creator and so on, forever, it all had to start somewhere, and it would need to come from as force powerful enough to create life

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  • Ok, now show me the Evidence that u have that proves that God does not exist. Atheist accuse Christians of having blind faith, but it turns out thats exactly what Atheist have. You have no Evidence to support your position. You have no Evidence to support that God does not exist, so u live with a blind faith that God does not exist

  • Ahh, lets see here... Theres Scientific Evidence, Historical Evidence, Archaeological Evidence, 3rd party Evidence, Fulfilled Prophetic Evidence, Statistical probabilities... they're Eye Witness accounts, over 25,000 pieces of parchments & documents that show that the texts are original and never been altered. Theres Mountains and Mountains of Evidence... Continued ^

  • Good point dude, saying god is above every law of sciene or motion is just a pathetic excuse to have somebody who can't be disproven

  • @atticana well put...this is my problem w/ the theists....they say to the scientist, you have to PROVE how the universe started, but I don't, I can just make up some BS and say "well, god is out of this dimension so I don't have to explain it"...we should attack that line of thinking every time they try to pull that crap. I saw Dawkins do a good job with that once, when a kid from Liberty Univ tried to pull this on him he said mockingly “well, is THAT convenient”

  • @atticana well put...this is my problem w/ the theists....they say to the scientist, you have to PROVE how the universe started, but I don't, I can just make up some BS and say "well, god is out of this dimension so I don't have to explain it"...we should attack that line of thinking every time they try to pull that crap. I saw Dawkins do a good job with that once, when a kid from Liberty Univ tried to pull this on him he said mockingly “well, is THAT convenient”

  • Yes, Arguments can be defeated. In fact, all arguments are dead simple to defeat. Arguments from run-of-the-mill people are easier still. God coming from nothing might be more complex than the universe coming from nothing, but both are still impossibly unlikely. We've hardly gotten off of our tiny planet, and we still hardly know about it. Why do we then feel the need to shove issues thousands of times more complex than our comprehending ability into easily debunked logic? Stupid char limit :( .

  • Well, the problem here is that most theists would argue not just that God is eternal, but that He exists OUTSIDE of time. He is the Eternal Subject, but everything created is an object, whether it be one atom or the whole universe. To argue for an eternal universe is nothing new, Aristotle did it. And if that were true then clearly God could not be the Creator. I do not believe that it is true.

  • @randycurry666 Ah,but energy and matter get neutralised in contact with antienergy and antimatter.

    P.S. I'm an agnostic,I'm just trying to make you come up with a better way to disapprove of god's existence.

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