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WTC 1&2 in the furnace with baudrillard

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Uploaded by on Feb 9, 2007

A performance of jean baudrillard's 'simulacra and simulation' to a red-hot glowing model of the world trade center burning in a furnace uncollapsed.

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  • Nice video, spread the word. Forget the little details, let others try and read this terribly dense work out loud for themselves.

    I disagree, however, with your reading of this work as connected to 9/11 in the way you imply. You say that the map (Bush admin) generates a Borges fable to displace the real. But how? The whole point is that there is no longer a real to displace in the first place. It can no longer even be referred to, whether this be in a positive or negative way.

  • It no longer needs to be rational - the 9/11 report is irrational - steel buildings don't fly apart, even when on fire - and they certainly don't demolish at the speed of falling in to the route of most resistance. But the story is genetic, it is repeated over and over, with a few videos, we construct a hperreal story of boxcutters and afgani cave dwellers... all supported by the genetically miniaturized fantasy physics of jet fuel melting 47 massive colums in 45 minutes simultaneously.

  • Of course, in this reading, you hit the nail on the head. I get where you're going now. But still, one must wonder, if there is such a thing as 'real' physics. Are we justified in making such a clear cut seperation between 'fake' physics (9/11 report with 'impossible' physical features) and 'real' physics (9/11 actually explained)? The point here is, I think, that it is no longer even possible to discover which is the 'really real' form of physics. This is cause of the 9/11 truth blur, IMO.

  • Yes, very well put. 'truth blur' - nobody

    can do a repeatable experiment - and this is

    where future physicists stand to prove the most,

    to do a 1/100th scale of the demolition and

    prove to us all the pancake theory. I'm suprised that so few people have experimented - in this video, are 2 tiny scale models of the towers barely visible, not flying apart, yet burning red and white hot in a coke fire.

    Itself a simulacra of something that never happened. :-)

  • He will deeply be missed

    Perpetual Art Machine

  • How sad we lost a real beauty... deeply missed indeed.

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  • The official story of the WTC towers destruction can be found at wtc.nist.gov

    If you read the FAQs you will find:

    1. The investigation does not cover the destruction of the buildings, merely the impacts and fires.

    2. There has been no official testing for explosives.

    3. No one involved in the investigation will stand by a single word of it in a court of law.

    How many supporters of the media story realise the official story is so weak?

    People of the world, unite in LAWFUL REBELLION.

  • very well done, very artistic and intellectual..i love Jean Baudrillard...he was correct on 911...

  • In order to conduct a physical experiment one must have understanding of the physical events that actually occurred, and that means relying on a video tape simulation of the "events" in order to construct a physical model of the "events."

    But the entire "event" is Simulacra, so even if we have provable physical sciences as a tool, what is it that we are attempting to prove?

    I think it is unwise to assume anything about this "event," as it is all Simulacra.

  • Good on you for posting this. Sadly there will always be people out there criticising everybodies efforts, it doesnt take a genius to that either. Besides theres not many people out there that could read JB aloud without problems.

  • ironically baudrillard believes 911 is carried out by terrorists. Read his article "the spirit of terrorism"

  • this is fake

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