Marche

L.J.A. Lefébure-Wely's Marche at the Van den Heuvel-organ in the Nieuwe Kerk in Katwijk aan Zee (NL)

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[VonDuesenberg]

No not only the barker machines, the organ is not clear, it does a lot of noise not sound and I hate that! But I think you will appreciate the new Symphonic organ built by our favorite Van den Heuvel in Copenhagen. I've seen Peter (Van den Heuvel) last tuesday when he came to Paris to take the movable console, he gave me the first CD of this organ, it sounds greatfully even if the program isn't really intersting...

[GJmusique]

Interesting how tastes are different. Sulpice noisy? You mean the barker machines? Of course Rouen is great. I also like St François de Sales in Lyon a lot and Toulouse, St. Sernin.

The only 'modern' french organ music I can stand a little bit is Pierre Pincemaille ;-)

[VonDuesenberg]

It's Quite funny because I don't like St Sulpice at all. This organ is not really fine in his sound, to much noisy, I prefer St Eustache or eventually St Ouen in Rouen. I don't like Messiaen too, but I love Jean Guillou. I was at ND last saturday evening because one of my friends played the "sortie", I hate this organ and most particulary his horrible chamades, I prefer those of St Eustache!!

[GJmusique]

I don't remember exactly, must be at least 5 years ago. I think it's a matter of taste, I like the more classical french symphonic organ like St Sulpice. I don't like the music by Guillou and Messiaen at all. The way Latry 'improvises' at ND de Paris with its terrible tutti.. I think the St. Eustache organ fits to this modern style more than the classical 'belle epoque'-era. As for the aesthetics, the organ case of St. Eustache is the most beautiful in the world without doubt!!!

[VonDuesenberg]

When did you play at St Eustache? Because there was a period during whichone the organ was tuned by a french organ builder who qualify himself as a great organ builder but who is in reality one of the worst!!! He don't know what is Harmony...But when the organ was kept by J.L VDH, it was fantastic. For me it's one of the most beautiful organ all over the world, but if they had listened Master Guillou about conception, it would be better for sure!

[GJmusique]

I played at St. Eustache and I didn't like it. It's way over the top, the reeds are too loud, the mixtures have too many ranks and scream, and then there's a load of weird aliquots... even when I tried to play a classic french piece by Franck with a basic foundation stop registration, I was like... "huh?". I can't speak for the Tonhalle organ as I don't know it very well.

[VonDuesenberg]

Sorry GJmusique, I admit that i'm a bit agressive but there are so many persons who speak about St Eustache organ as they know all about it whereas they say whatsoever which is absolutely wrong. Indeed, St Eustache has more details stops than the Zurich orgel, because they don't listened Jean Guillou about that. In his conception, each stops is a solist himself that makes this organs absolutely perfect!! My organ teacher worked with him at the Tonhalle organ & told me that the organ is finest.

[GJmusique]

Well, I didn't know that detail in deed. Which is different to "not anything". Perhaps you should watch your tone- this is how them fiery debates on youtube start. Geez.

On another note, I DO find that the Eustache organ has more exotic stops then the Tonhalle organ, but that must be me then.

[VonDuesenberg]

@GJmusique you don't know anything about the VDH organ in St Eustache. The composition of the organ is not from Jean Guillou but from the expert of the city of Paris who was himself artistic director of Casavant Freres. 95% of the wishes of Jean Guillou were refused by the organ commission or else, the organ would have, for sure, a minimum of 20 stops less than today, and each would have a solistic character like in Zurich Tonhalle organ.

[Ntalikeris666]

You are very lucky to have the ability to play a CC organ.