Why Christians have it wrong (3 of 50)

The Vulgate vs. the Alexandrian canon. Religion vs. spirituality. Religion as an excuse for corporate and dogmatic dominion.

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[malakhhatzadik]

@etherform66 I guess I thought it was understood that when Jerome read it in Hebrew and invented the Latin association, he was doing so in the spirit of the prophecy rather than just putting a spin on it for his own purposes. To infer, as some would, that no proper association was intended in the Hebrew is to beg the question of why Jerome would do that at all, seeing as Lucifer (the bishop of Cagliari, Jerome's ideological nemesis) was himself a "Luciferian" like the king of Tyre.

[malakhhatzadik]

@etherform66 Would it suffice to say that the king of Tyre was being associated with Nimrod/Horus/Apollo, as the "son of" what in Greek would be Helios (i.e. the son of the sun god)? If not it would take me ages to explain the hermeneutics of ET and demon descriptions in the Hebrew Bible--which I'm willing to do, seeing how you say you are genuine, but in that case a video or video series would be more appropriate.

[etherform66]

@malakhhatzadik im not trying to waste you time - i am genuinely seeking your opinion. I have read your response and I was not asking after your opinion on 'lucifer' - i was asking after your opinion on the Hebrew word that the word lucifer was translated from. it is an obscure word and there is a great deal of conflicting opinion relating its etymology. I will keep searching then.. shalom

[malakhhatzadik]

@etherform66 Well then I'm sorry I failed to answer your question. I tried. Good luck in your quest to find a answer-box guru who is more capable than I.

[etherform66]

@malakhhatzadik I was more interestend in what you make of the Hebrew word Helyel.

[malakhhatzadik]

@etherform66 If you mean 'the word "Lucifer"' then to me it represents what the Masons say it does, which is the literal person of Andjety/Osiris and/or the spirit of this being which manifests in the people who adopt his ideology ... and in particular, what Jerome meant by it when he invented the association, which is the Athanasian (Nicene/Trinitarian) doctrine of mainstream Christianity, which essentially personifies the whole Babylonian belief system. Hope that helps.

[etherform66]

@malakhhatzadik HI.. before i begin to go through your videos, can you tell me what you make of the work "lucifer' - not in an abstract sense, rather in a real translational sense - "Heleyl"

[theslothman666]

@malakhhatzadik "It's still the Church; it's still the Inquisition." Thats exactly my point. I was just taking focus away from the Catholic church to shine the light on all organised religions, not limited to Christianity either.. It was never my intention to be on the attack here. I merely stated my opinion.

[malakhhatzadik]

@theslothman666 You have failed to identify "organised churches" for the Catholic institutions they are. I infer that your focus here is primarily on the Church of England, in which case I would say "What's the difference?" It's still the Church; it's still the Inquisition.

[theslothman666]

@malakhhatzadik No need to appologise :) Have a look into other protestant groups through Europe and America and you will find it wasnt an isolated incident for any non catholic group. Wouldnt you say it was more a case of intent and not always the toll anyway? Were they witches or just women persecuted by over zelous fanatics? Dont get me wrong here. Im not a catholic and nor am I trying to defend them. The history of all the organised churches of Christ have skeletons in their closets.