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BTW, somebody mentioned Villegas, and he's another example of a guy who has some goofiness in his swing (much more than with Glover), but gets it done. I actually _hate_ watching him swing a club, but he's the leaders in GIR this year, so there you go. I think it comes down to the fact that beyond a very few true fundamentals in the swing, golf is really about much more than the swing--which is something a lot of young players don't seem to get at all.
I absolutely love his extension and the flow of his arm swing, but most players couldn't maintain a swinging motion with a forward move of the head and upper body like he has. He actually moves backward, then forward at the start of the downswing, about a head-width past his address position, then back a bit by impact. But he's pretty much gold in most other respects. I just wouldn't recommend all that movement to most players.
I don't like the guy's swing either--too much heaving and lunging, almost certainly not an action that's going to hold together over time. Doesn't mean the guy can't put a number up, though. But I can't imagine who'd name his swing as "best on tour," and call it "effortless" to boot. It's _huge_ effort. He makes it work...for now.
Wow...you're lumping a lot of people together there. Sergio and Glover, in Hogan and Nelson's category, qualitywise or even swingwise? I don't think so.
I had Glover as a favorite coming into the open, btw, because he was #1 in total driving on tour. If I'm picking, I go by results, not by appearance. The discussion was about his swing, not his results. In fact, you'll notice that I said of him, "He makes it work...for now," and "Doesn't mean the guy can't put a number up"...
...and, in fact, the first time Glover was mentioned, the other poster said Glover "has to have great hands to time that swing," and I agreed that he did. If you can find two top teachers who are in favor of letting the head and swing center slide as far forward as Glover does, more power to ya. Sometimes a guy plays well in _spite_ of certain swing characteristics, rather than because of them. I think he's a talented guy who's worked hard to get where he is, and he has a perfect temperament.
As for Hogan and Nelson, both kept their heads well back through impact; Nelson in particular was very explicit about his efforts to do so. I wouldn't characterize either of them as "heaving and lunging" at all, although I guess you could find other technical flaws (mostly in Nelson's soft and sometimes sagging/dipping left side--he was convinced you shouldn't have a firm left leg through impact with steel shafts). Garcia's not comparable to Glover, either, in this respect.
And neither Garcia nor Glover is anywhere on the map with Hogan or Nelson. Not yet.
Anyhow, no, I stand by the comment about Glover's forward slide. When Nicklaus, Woods, Hogan, Nelson, Snead, Jones, etc. make an effort to stay back behind the ball, I'm gonna say that's the preferred way to do it. But this year, in this tournament, Glover absolutely deserved the win, because he's certainly making it work right now. #1 in total driving coming into the Open is a good place to be.
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I absolutely love his extension and the flow of his arm swing, but most players couldn't maintain a swinging motion with a forward move of the head and upper body like he has. He actually moves backward, then forward at the start of the downswing, about a head-width past his address position, then back a bit by impact. But he's pretty much gold in most other respects. I just wouldn't recommend all that movement to most players.
Heaving and lunging...just like Hogan, Nelson, Sergio, among many others...?
#1 in total driving...
I dunno em...
And I repeat...before and after US Open...
I had Glover as a favorite coming into the open, btw, because he was #1 in total driving on tour. If I'm picking, I go by results, not by appearance. The discussion was about his swing, not his results. In fact, you'll notice that I said of him, "He makes it work...for now," and "Doesn't mean the guy can't put a number up"...
Anyhow, no, I stand by the comment about Glover's forward slide. When Nicklaus, Woods, Hogan, Nelson, Snead, Jones, etc. make an effort to stay back behind the ball, I'm gonna say that's the preferred way to do it. But this year, in this tournament, Glover absolutely deserved the win, because he's certainly making it work right now. #1 in total driving coming into the Open is a good place to be.